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<0> whatever
<0> you want network control per application domain, not just per uid
<0> the more important issue with path-based access control though is hardlinks
<0> if i have an app that's allowed to write something in /tmp, but not allowed to touch /etc/p***wd i can just hardlink it
<0> and write /etc/p***wd without the system realising it because it only looks at path names
<0> which means that the only useful place to store access control properties of a file is in its inode
<1> ahhh I love being a prick
<1> some ***hole calls up says his cisco phones are cutting out
<1> he blames the internet connection, and of course it looks fine
<1> he hasn't done any troubleshooting
<1> but he wanted to know the business names that have the service in his building and when they were installed
<1> because he feels that those people are taking his quality of service
<1> eventhough I told him that his modem is perfectly fine.
<1> I told him that's not his business heh
<2> spb: does selinux have a 'lockdown' mode where, after the mode is entered, changes to the security policy are not allowed until the machine is reboot?
<0> foxdonut: yes
<2> spb: so what happens, if say, you upgrade a program during that mode, such that its inode changes?
<1> selinux is a pITA man
<1> f it
<1> until they get some better docs together at least
<2> its a pretty clever system and i certainly admire it, but i think its just covering up fundamental problems with the security architecture in the linux kernel rather than solving them once and for all
<2> bitrot: i want to grow silkworms.
<2> http://www.wormspit.com/bombyxsilkworms.htm
<2> :D
<1> ahhh wonderful friday, just talked to some woman who thought she could trick me, tsk tsk.
<3> ?
<4> have *** with her.
<2> i'd Trick You
<5> emo, do you still have usenet axx?
<6> can you have qmail forward mail to multiple addresses?
<7> linux isnt an OS its a kernel right?
<8> Strictly, yeah; Linux is the kernel.
<7> so refering to it as an OS is incorrect
<7> could you elaborate?
<7> Im in the learnin stage :P
<9> EightPock: GNU/Linux is an operating system :-)
<8> Most people find the term "GNU/Linux" unwieldy, and hence refer to the OS after the kernel name
<9> GNU/Linux is the linux kernel combined with the GNU userland
<10> User: julchen Pasted http://pasteme.com/p.php?id=472
<7> I got a really stupid question
<9> the answer is 42
<7> lol
<7> Ok, installing things without portage/emerge...
<8> It's possible, sure
<6> can you have qmail forward mail to multiple addresses?
<9> wget program_source.tar.gz
<7> say I download a bz2 source file.. tar blahblah blah
<7> extract it
<7> than what
<8> Check the INSTALL file
<9> cd program_source_dir
<8> Normally, the process is ./configure; make; make install
<9> yeah, check the install
<8> But that can change
<7> ok
<7> Thanks guys
<7> any suggestions on a binary client that does NZB?
<9> eww, you are in #gentoo and you want a binary?
<7> Well, I guess it doesnt matter.. in windows I used grabit.
<7> it handled NZB's nicely
<7> I saw an applicatoin called hellanzb
<7> and handled everything automatically, the downloading, Par' checkin and extracting
<9> hellanzb is great, it will handle everything
<9> if you just want to grab and ***emble the message parts nzbget (in portage) works
<7> is ti hard to setup?
<7> hellanzb looked good
<7> and its nice to have everything automated :)
<9> hellanzb is fairly easy to setup but you have to install it from source
<7> ya, grabin the bin is just quicker :P
<7> I didnt compile openoffice
<9> there is no bin, it's written in python.
<7> would of taken forever
<7> k
<9> Open Office only takes like 6 hours on my laptop.
<8> If you're grabbing binaries for all the packages you use on Gentoo, you're circumventing the point
<7> Two9A, I dont.
<7> I've done most from source.
<8> Whee
<7> I think almost everything BUT openoffice
<7> just cuase someone said it would take awhile
<7> firefox took eons it seemed
<9> yeah, it does take a while.
<9> firefox doesn't take too long, but it has a lot of deps.
<9> there is firefox-bin
<7> ya
<7> Im fairly new to linux, 3 weeks?
<7> 2 systems up with it
<9> though firefox tends to get new versions before firefox-bin
<7> I have yet to convert my main PC
<7> but Im really likin it so far.
<7> just hard to change, as I've used windows for so long
<7> does activex work in linux?
<9> ha.
<1> does a bear **** on a toilet?
<9> ActiveX is microsoft bull**** that should have been aborted.
<3> EightPock: want to get baned?
<6> baha
<6> active*** in linux
<3> I must say font looks better in FF then opera
<2> oH. one can use isolinux's memdisk image support with grub, neat.
<9> grub on a dvd, you lie!
<2> hmm?
<7> lol
<7> dang
<7> Its just, some music sites I use
<7> to watch videos, etc
<7> use activex
<11> haha
<1> this is amazing
<1> i just am amazed how ****ing CLUELESS PEOPLE ARE
<1> is it just that it's firday
<1> and they don't want to work
<1> so they figure i'll just call tech support and play idiot
<12> y helo
<1> what does mW stand for?
<9> mrij: what do you think yo are mr|Venom
<1> millaWatt?
<9> bitrot: yes, milliwatt
<1> k thought so
<13> stainless steel
<9> wtf?
<9> heh, I take it the entire topic isn't yours? (I was reading it as piped commands)
<14> ahmm
<14> i need to find a compile package of some kind of dhcp client for my amd64 gentoo
<14> 2006.0
<15> net-misc/dhcpcd ?
<14> ok
<14> but i need it compiled..
<16> then compile it?
<14> can you emerge dhcpcd and give me the direct link of the package
<14> i don't have internet on my linux box
<14> so i'll download it here and move it to /usr/portage/distfiles
<16> why don't you have the internet?
<9> ummmm, distfiles stores source packages.
<14> i'll compile from source
<15> http://ftp.du.se/pub/os/gentoo/distfiles/dhcpcd-2.0.5.tar.bz2
<14> thank you
<16> _ufk_: did you not have internet on the linux box because it didn't have dhcpcd installed?
<2> i thought that was part of stage3
<7> ut og
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