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<0> Technische spec.: is where i was looking
<1> i see
<0> when everything is in a differnt lang... its a bitch
<0> morning
<2> hi MrEcho :)
<3> anyone able to get nzbget to ever succeed in downloading anything ?
<3> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x081963e8 ***
<4> yes
<4> nzbget worked for me
<4> haven't used it in a year
<3> that's on all versions, no matter what the .nzb file used :(
<4> weird
<5> It is estimated that at least 70 million pounds of raw silk are produced each year, requiring nearly 10 billion pounds of mulberry leaves. According to E. L. Palmer (Fieldbook of Natural History, 1949), one pound of silk represents about 1,000 miles of filament.
<5> The annual world production represents 70 billion miles of silk filament, a distance well over 300 round trips to the sun.
<5> amazing.
<3> aah...the ncurses interface is buggy, colored or loggable work ok :)
<1> to the moon!
<2> TGIF!!
<6> http://server2.dasarbeitslosenspiel.de/beg.php?id=5322 <-- gentoo box gots oWNED easily...
<7> MORNIN
<8> Afternoon.
<4> keekle
<4> i get to go check out the new place in a little bit :)
<7> supreme: english please...
<4> and hopefully the chink *** fedex driver will leave the box on the porch
<5> bitrot: its one of those web games
<7> MrStabby: have you used GRSec before?
<4> so when I get back I can raid the **** out of this
<7> foxdonut: k
<5> bitrot: he should be swiftly dealt with
<5> i suggest a shotgun
<7> heh
<4> no bitrot
<4> isn't that for 2.4
<7> $ gradm -F -L /var/log/learning.log
<7> Error opening: /etc/grsec/pw
<7> O.o
<7> how can I generate /etc/grsec/pw ?
<4> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/grsecurity.xml
<4> :]
<4> speaking of hardened
<5> gradm -P?
<7> oh
<7> more **** to install O.o
<4> the dump i just released had to have a ****ing specific gravity of a dying star
<7> -P is for pamauth lol
<5> GRADEM
<5> GRRRRADEM
<5> i like grsec
<4> i don't know what it be
<7> I was missing chpax paxctl pax-utils
<4> chax pacax
<7> foxdonut: yeah it's all I really need
<4> ****ing gooks
<7> **** SELINUX >:|
<4> those jobs aren't advertised
<4> pisses me off
<4> flip through the cl***ified job ads... 'black ops operator'
<4> :|
<7> yeah neither is big time Mob ***asin
<7> :'(
<4> even the NCS puts blind ads in local papers
<7> damn sooo many tools
<4> like 'exciting career in the navy as a civilian'
<4> haha
<7> aha
<4> you apply, next thing you know, you're interviewd at a hotel
<4> by the company
<7> now no "Blackhat" can brok m y system
<7> i ran `paxtest blackhat` buahaha
<4> :|
<4> if i do that on a gentoo sources box, do you think it'll **** it up
<4> i better go get my girlfriend or she won't put out tonight
<4> ****ing daycare shouldn't get out at 11am on fridays
<4> :|
<9> Not very good daycare if it stops before the day's barely started
<7> nothing like another day of listening to idiots slamm the keys on their keyboard
<7> here uset his
<7> works better if you use that to press your keys.
<9> Sweet
<7> foxdonut: lol oh you were right -P
<2> MrStabby
<2> ah crap, 10 am
<7> ooo learning mode :D
<2> :)
<7> I'm liking GRSec more than SELinux already
<7> it has a learning mode lol
<7> how cool be that
<7> and the policies make a lot more sense than the SELinux policies do IMO.
<10> learning mode is fundamentally broken
<7> so is selinux
<7> lol
<7> if it's broken why does the manual recommend using it?
<7> and every other quickstart guide out there recommend using iT?
<10> because its brokenness is fundamental enough that most people don't see it
<7> why is the learning.log filling up?
<10> lemme find the link
<7> 68K /etc/grsec/learning.log
<7> as long as it works I don't honestly care
<7> if it gives me something to work with then I can configure the rest on my own
<10> oh, and iirc grsec does path-based access
<10> which is also utterly broken
<7> explain?
<10> http://securityblog.org/brindle/2006/04/19/security-anti-pattern-path-based-access-control/
<7> and some links explaning would be nice
<10> http://securityblog.org/brindle/2006/03/25/security-anti-pattern-status-quo-encapsulation/
<7> hmmm
<7> i'm confused
<7> how is everything not a file in unix?
<10> tcp socket
<7> yeah
<7> I have a firewall
<10> pipe
<7> to limit my TCP
<10> a firewall that controls outbound connections ?
<7> lol
<7> yeah
<10> that can allow firefox to use http but not $random-other-app?
<7> what kind of firewalls have you useD?
<7> IPTables allows layer 7 filtering..
<10> based on what criteria?
<7> ports
<7> it's not app based like firefox
<7> er
<7> selinux
<10> so it doesn't replace selinux networking controls
<7> no and I honestly don't need SElinux networking controls
<10> pipes and file descriptors are other examples
<10> stream sockets
<7> yes i see your point
<7> There is nothing wrong with grsec
<7> it just depends HOW ANAL you want to be.
<10> grsec achieves its goals
<10> but its goals are broken
<7> iptables does allow user based filtering
<10> ok, consider the following
<10> firefox exploit
<7> this is a server
<7> so really bad example :(
<10> downloads a trojan onto your machine, which installs itself somewhere to start up
<10> apache exploit then
<10> whatever
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