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<0> hmm
<0> did you start your xorg.conf over after you migrated?
<1> I didn't migrate its fresh install
<1> first install on this pc
<0> ok
<0> its probably something with your config because others have had no problem with that chipset
<1> is it possible to have xorg 6.9 and 7.0?
<0> no
<0> you should go to irc.freenode.net and ask in #gentoo and #gentoo-laptop about your graphics card
<1> o.k thanks
<2> anyone have a list of binhosts?
<3> what would be a good programming laungauge to learn if i have no prior experience with programming languages?
<0> asm
<3> asm ?
<0> ***ymbly
<3> haha



<4> if you have no experience at all you should start off with a simple scripting language or something
<4> just to get to understand the logic of it
<4> I started my programming carreer with PHP. understanding C/Cpp was much easier after that, as the logic and syntax is kinda close.
<5> hi
<5> how would i go about saying that i dont care about the new xorg release, so that my emerge list gets nice and pretty again?
<6> LordCrc: mask it ?
<6> also you can cut the list down by specifying INPUT_DEVICES and VIDEO_CARDS ..
<5> mask it... right, thats in the handbook somewhere no?
<6> LordCrc: /etc/portage/package.mask
<6> usage is like >=blah/blah
<6> or =blah/blah .. etc
<5> ok, so = would be that specific version, and >= would be this and any newer?
<6> yes
<5> you wouldnt happen to know if there's one or two packages i can mask in order to exclude the whole new xorg thing?
<6> LordCrc: if you mask xorg-x11 .. it might do it all?
<5> ah point taken
<6> you might need to mask the virtual too
<7> znX
<6> sup Two9A :)
<7> Not doing too bad
<5> yay
<5> pretty pretty list
<5> only 5 pages long but hey
<5> better than it was
<5> :)
<5> thanks
<5> i got gcc 3.3.6 now, is it straight forward to upgrade to 3.4.6 ?
<6> was for me
<5> neato
<8> Bah, I just acceidentally removed dev-python/pycrypto ^^
<8> Had to comment out the digest calls in portage.py to get it to emerge :P
<5> haha
<9> i was in this #linux channel and got insulted and kicked out just because im an Iranian terrorist
<9> no problem
<9> for showing my sincere respect for the american
<9> im downloading kiddie porn
<9> free kiddie porn for american kids via email
<7> Bored?
<9> why not?!? after all prophet Muhammad was a pedo himself
<10> #gentoo != #linux
<10> hm
<7> I just play some music when I'm bored, instead of trolling
<11> hehe
<10> I install gentoo in a VM, over and over
<10> when im bored
<7> Impressive
<10> watching make spew forth lots of information, just does it for me
<9> c ya guys
<7> Failure
<10> haha
<12> hmm this seamonkey thing is pretty cool
<13> Yeah, it's not too bad
<14> Is there any way to see the current emerge queue?
<15> open a new term, run the emerge again, but with -pv
<16> hmm, guys, which brand of medias do you use when burning (both cd's and dvd'd) ?
<16> dvd's*
<15> Genia4: ty's for dvd's
<16> ty? never heard of them
<15> tdk has always been good to me for cd's
<15> ty = Taiyo Yuden



<16> I'm trying to decide whether verbatim/tdk is worth the extra 30% they cost :)
<14> Super-Fly: That's how I'm doing it now - but then it have to calculate all the deps again ..
<15> xzz: of course, how else would it know?
<15> Genia4: http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-silver-thermal-8x-dvd-r-media-100-pack.html?WT.mc_id=cjtext
<14> Genia4: They are (Verbatim).
<15> verbatim ****s
<16> xzz: you use them?
<16> Super-Fly: how so?
<14> Genia4: yes.
<15> they don't make their own media
<14> Genia4: only
<15> they just rebrand
<15> so you don't know what you're getting
<16> huh?
<14> Super-Fly: It calculates once when you do a emerge, but not between each package ..
<15> they buy discs from other companies, and put their logo on it
<16> yes, I know what rebranding means
<16> are you sure it's true?
<15> yes
<15> I'm 100% sure
<16> never read a bad review abou verbatim...
<14> Anyway, I have never had any problems with Verbatim ..
<16> Super-Fly: so tdk is what you use?
<14> But with other discs ...
<15> I use tdk for CD's
<16> why not for dvd's?
<15> Because I don't buy dvd's that have branding on them
<15> I like silver matte's with nothing on them
<15> if you buy tdk, verbatim, sony, etc, you're gonna get their **** all over it
<15> ty's are probably the highest rated dvds right now
<16> oh, I don't care for that
<16> I'm not sure you can find ty's around here
<15> ritek is ok too
<15> are you in eu?
<16> Israel
<15> close enough
<16> I'm not gonna import cd's
<16> shipping is gonna cost a lot
<15> yea
<15> I'm sure you can find some over there
<15> they're really popular
<16> and our VAT (15.5%), and import taxes on this kind of crap
<16> well, never seen one myself, and never seen one in an online store
<15> probably because you've never looked for them
<16> what about memorex and fuji?
<15> I've never used memorex, they have a ****ty name here (US), and the fuji cd's I used to buy a long time ago, don't work at all anymore
<15> no scratches or anything, they just all stopped working for some reason
<14> Genia4: I have had bad experiences with Memorex as audio cds
<17> ****
<17> are there any pam.d gurus around
<17> this **** isn't working
<18> MrStabby pasted "pam.d", view at http://genpaste.pengu.in/pastes/show/241
<17> will someone look at those
<19> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_29/b3993001.htm
<17> i need pam to pause for 15 seconds after invalid login, before allowing a retry
<17> also, after 2 failed logins, I need the account locked for 15 minutes
<17> that should be covered by that pam_tally.so line
<14> haha
<19> does sshd have an idletimeout variable now?
<17> yes
<17> IdleTimeout time
<17> in (s)econds (m)inutes (h)ours (d)ays or (w)eeks
<19> cause it knocking me off from my LAN gentoo server.
<14> MrStabby: Read the man page ..
<14> MrStabby: haha, sorry. my eyes did see a question mark :P
<17> I did read the man page xzz
<14> ;)
<17> and according to the kernel.org man page, I am doing it correctly
<17> hence why I asked
<17> as I don't ask unless I have exercised the use of a man page
<14> MrStabby: I was thinking of the sshd ting - not pam ;)
<17> BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL! oops
<17> :>
<17> hrm


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