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<0> C++ flags
<0> you can look for gcc's opts in the docs for it
<0> for available compile time options
<0> in your case,
<0> you'll want to march it to pentium3 or lower
<0> you can use i686 if you plan on moving it to another (relatively) new system
<1> i'm not really impressed with the bourne supremacy in 1080i
<1> not even a little bit
<2> Err, so get the 686 stage but set the march to p3?
<2> I've never manually configured anything I"ve compiled
<3> http://community.smoothwall.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21995 I love idiots
<3> My favourite lines
<3> more "American" then u will ever be ... more goes to show the type of folks that goto boards to flame people... to bad there isnt a blockin button... would be KEWL == cool for themwho dont know ... o will some day u = you folks will get ur head out ur === YOUR azz = *** does this seem CLEAR enough for u = YOU it is so easy to understand n simple to read... 100 mbit cards n wires n switch yet it all runs no faster the 10 MEG mmm u all ops u = YOU ask
<2> .sigh.
<4> could updating glib cause severe problems? I'm thinking it's not as big a deal as upgrading glibc, but I'm not sure...
<5> glib isnt to big of a deal
<5> some apps might break, if there old
<4> then it's just a matter of recompiling them.
<2> Was there a specific reason that bz is used rather than gz?
<6> stevegibs: better compression.
<2> Oh, why do other systems use gz?
<6> you'll find that both are used quite commonly.
<6> gzip is faster than bzip2, but bzip2 achieves better compression
<2> oh ok
<2> I only ever see bzip in Gentoo.
<6> then you must be closing your eyes 50% of the time :-0
<2> Or I don't download compressed archives except for software and all the distros I have used use gzip
<6> stevegibs: try this: `ls /usr/portage/distfiles/*.gz | wc -l`
<6> then try `ls /usr/portage/distfiles/*.bz2 | wc -l`
<2> .... this is in gentoo though....
<6> on my machine there are more gzipped archives than bzipped.
<6> stevegibs: bah, fix that then :-)
<2> Meh, nevermind.
<2> If I'm doing a stage3 and respecify the -march is that going to mess up anything thing?
<6> stevegibs: gentoo prefers patches for their portage snapshots, stages, and patch archives because it is a more compact format, but most software in portage uses gzip because it is more prevelant.
<7> how do you spell fewint as
<7> i know this this an this
<6> stevegibs: specifying march is recommened.
<2> Changing it from the default? But aren't all the programs that come with stage3 compiled with the default march?
<5> if you want to use 'defaults' go use Ubuntu
<6> yeah, but march just optimizes packages for that type of processor, it isn't like CHOSTS where changing it can break your system
<8> Sabayon
<2> Ubuntu has become the bain of userfriendlyness.. or nonuserfriendlyness... whatever word goes there to make that make sense.... make install
<2> I like Sabayon... but the installer is the ****... "let's install everything"
<2> Meh anyway.
<2> What does CHOST do for you? The handbook doesn't really specify.
<5> pretty much sets up which arch your cpu is ... like i686 or x86_64 or ppc
<5> bad idea to change
<2> Yay, I'm in "my own gentoo environment"
<2> So march is just more specific than chost?
<5> ya
<5> http://gentoo-install.com/install#t6.4
<2> Oh ok :)
<5> look at that
<2> Umm, I set my march to pentium3
<2> :-/
<5> then you use i686
<2> Oh, pentium3 isn't on the list you just linked to but I found another list on a page about gcc.
<5> which I provide a link to...
<2> Eh?
<2> I'm not the best multitasker.
<2> Is it a bad idea to mix the default/desktop/server use flags in make.default
<2> or... concatenate.. if you like big words.
<5> dont screw with that file
<2> It just copies the USE variable into make.conf doesn't it?
<5> dont screw with that file
<5> do your own use flags in make.conf
<2> Ok, can I screw with USE="" in make.conf?
<8> emerge ufed
<8> ufed
<8> that will edit the use flags
<5> weak
<8> or you can just do them per package
<2> Yeah, that's what I'm saying though. Is it a bad idea to concatenate the use variables from the desktop/server make.default ?
<5> dont worry about make.default
<5> get that file out of your head
<2> What file?
<2> :)
<2> But really, in /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1
<5> dude dont worry about that stuff
<2> There are 3 different make.default files. I would like to take the use flags from all of those and put them in my make.conf
<5> leave it as be
<5> dude its ****ing auto
<5> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=2
<5> read the damm handbook
<2> Precedence.
<2> Is it going to be a problem if I only have UTF-8 enabled?
<5> in what
<2> /etc/locale.gen
<5> read my install guide
<2> gentoo-install.com?
<5> yep
<2> That doesn't explain what would happen if you left ISO-8859-1 disabled though.
<5> bad things
<2> Evil bad things?
<5> are you trying to screw with me? ... because im not in the mood
<2> I was just joking on that last line.
<8> you can use just UTF-8
<2> I'm curious what it would do. I've read that there was a distro that only used UTF-8
<5> its more bits per char, which isnt a good thing for a slow cpu
<2> I never looked into it much futher other than a definition of what utf-8 is.
<5> you might want to
<2> iso-8859-1 is the same as ASCII right?
<5> anything out of the norm, you might want to read up on before enabling things
<2> Just the ISO number.
<2> Wait, ISO is from france though and ascii is "american standards"
<5> i sware your trying to screw with us..
<2> I just ask a lot of questions.
<5> http://****inggoogleit.com
<5> where not here to hold your hand, when theres docs on the site and in the forums
<5> and unless you have a real issue, im not helping anymore
<5> you can have fun with him redhook...
<1> you told me jason bourne was dead!
<9> stevegibs, don't use MrEcho's install guide
<10> shiznix: yeah, got them all built, most of them run but not correctly
<10> shiznix: just not ready yet
<2> PUJOL: I'm not, it looks like a "how to just do it" guide. I'm trying to know everything that I"m doing here. It's going more smoothly than the first time I installed Gentoo.
<9> stevegibs, good policy
<2> Know what I'm doing pretty mostly.
<9> stevegibs, i configed my make.conf to use all use flags, so i get most robust apps
<2> PUJOL: I'm trying to setup a desktop/server. But actually the USE flags in make.conf aren't the only flags that it uses.
<2> Or so it seems. Unless it's the live cd messing up emerge --help... but I've already chrooted.
<9> stevegibs, the live cd is total ****
<9> stevegibs, i suggest stage 1 install
<2> All gentoo disks are live cds.
<9> stevegibs, do from scratch it's bettor
<2> I've already started it dude, I'm configuring my Kernel now.
<11> If you are making a server, I do suggest stage 1 as well
<9> stevegibs, throw it out and redo
<9> or rue this day
<6> PUJOL: stop telling people to do stage 1 installs.
<9> CannedBar, trying to help majn
<6> stevegibs: the useflags in make.conf, and make.default are used.
<6> also, packages can pull in additional use flags when needed if I recall correctly.
<6> PUJOL: there is a reason that stage 1 installs are no longer supported.
<9> yeh CannedBar blind efficiency
<9> CannedBar, it's a slippry slopes right down to the binary distro
<6> PUJOL: oh please, go troll somewhere else
<6> do a stage 3 install, tweak your make.conf, then recompile the install, faster than a stage 1 install, but with all the benifits.
<2> /etc/make.profile/make.defaults /etc/make.conf /etc/portage/packes.use and the USE in the ENV variables.
<2> There's where it gets it's use flags.
<6> stevegibs: yes.
<2> CannedBar: Yeah that's what I figured I would do.
<9> stevegibs, do stage 1
<6> PUJOL: why?
<2> The only important things that need to be compiled so they are optimized is apache, php, mysql, and the kernel.
<2> Other than that, I could give a crap. It's like tricking out a civic when you just drive it to work.
<9> CannedBar, if you do stage 3 might as well run debian, here's why
<6> stevegibs: yeah, so no need to do a stage 1 install.
<9> plain gcc will none use make.conf
<9> and you're use that a lot
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