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<0> http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/28/1635229&from=rss
<1> people, can Linux correctly handle a logical drive being expanded on the fly?
<1> I can do this with Compaq SmartArray software
<1> but it warns against it with OSes that don't support it
<2> ask compaq/hp
<1> already done that
<0> depends on the filesystem
<1> documentation is completely unclear about it
<1> the filesystem is unaffected afaik
<1> this is a logical drive we're talking about
<0> ? wtf are u trying to do
<1> Linux needs to be able to understand that the logical drive is being resized
<0> which in turns will resize the partition on that logical drive, which the filesystem has to support or it will screw up
<1> no
<1> it will not
<0> what the hell are you tryning to do
<1> there is nothing 'what the hell' about resizing a logical drive
<0> your talking about partitions right?
<1> NO!
<1> a logical drive
<0> phisical drive?
<1> NO!
<1> a logical drive!
<1> argh
<0> as in lvms?
<1> no
<1> a logical drive, not a logical volume
<1> look
<0> raid?
<1> I appreciate you're trying to help
<0> a "logical drive" could be a few things
<1> but if you don't know what a Compaq SmartArray controller is and that it supports logical drive expanding etc.
<0> ok so its a raid card ya i know this
<1> they're not normal RAID cards
<1> they are listed under Block Devices in Linux for a reason ;)
<3> gah, anyone actually use this nzbperl?
<0> well if you increase the sector count...
<0> not to sure how the partition table would handle that
<1> the partition is not affected
<1> this happens at a much lower level
<0> now that i know what your doing
<0> i think it could be done
<1> the point is that I'm not sure Linux is capable of correctly handling a drive (logical, as the SmartArray controller presents its devices to the OS this way) increasing in size
<0> ya your increasing the sector count of the drive ...
<1> well those are not the words I'd use
<1> just the space
<0> space = blocks
<0> sorry wrong word
<1> yeah
<1> literally what's happening
<1> is that the logical drive is going to start at size X, and gradually increase to size Y
<1> so that's quite a hefty thing for an OS to handle
<0> hell ya
<1> it is why Compaq explicitly warns in the program to control the array that some OSes **** this up
<1> but I cannot for the life of me find out where the list of 'supporting/supported OSes' is
<0> more like what kernel vers
<0> do u have a lvms(etc) on top of this /dev/ ?
<1> nope
<1> that's why SmartArray cards are listed under Block Devices
<4> my aacraid is handled fine under linux when it grows
<1> they completely hide the physical layer from the OS
<4> i've grown it from 4 drives to 6 then 8
<1> matja: did you do it on a live fs?
<4> the size of the device is only read when it needs to, ie when repartitioning, or adding pvs in a lvm set
<4> penguin: yeah, xfs
<1> ok
<1> that's good to know
<4> xfs allows online resizing
<4> i used lvm tho
<4> but having one big partition should be the same
<4> just more inconvenient
<3> gah, i need something where I can actually browse newsgroups via console :(
<3> probably not gonna happen :/
<0> penguin: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/cciss.txt
<1> it's CPQARRAY
<1> not CCISS
<1> but I'll take a look
<0> thats where it points me to in the menuconfig
<1> maybe they merged the driver
<5> do the ati-drivers work with xorg 7.x?
<6> does anything work with xorg 7.x?!
<0> yes
<0> ati might work with 7.1 nvidia doesnt .... but both work with 7.0(1.0.2)
<5> hmm .. time to revert to 7.0 then
<7> hello
<7> no one?
<8> no.
<7> damn
<8> session closed,
<7> ?
<9> Heh
<10> Hmm, wonder if nvidia x11 drivers are working now.
<10> Just upgraded nvidia-kernel, and got a notice saying that they're being phased out
<11> nathanGL: ^ postinst
<12> what version is being phased out?
<13> what package has mkfs.vfat
<0> sys-fs/dosfstools
<13> ahh dosfs
<13> thnx
<13> you know of mkfs.vfat will do block scans before setting up the fs
<0> no idea
<13> kk
<13> my ipod is going to hell quickly :(
<12> does mkfs ever do that?
<4> motion: -c
<13> :-D
<13> iamben; id hope so
<14> DCC SEND OLIAOIBNLNOINALOSHLKNSOIHLKASNOIASHGLKNSAOIHJKLASNGFOIHSGKLNolhnonaghonaljkgoansglkoahglagn
<15> ppl are still vuln to that?
<0> might just want to use the apple programs that come with the ipod to reformat
<13> haha
<13> HAHAHA
<13> mrecho; yeah im pulling my music off it first
<13> well trying
<13> gtkpod kept borking on IO errors in the var/log/messages
<13> so now im copying manually from the ipod
<13> ugly *** file structure :(
<0> that it is
<10> iamben: the nvidia-kernel package
<8> ugly ***es are not pretty ***es
<8> todays truth
<13> anyone know an app to take a load of mp3s/m4a/m4p and sort them based on id3 tag info
<12> i find that hard to believe that they are phasing out nvidia-kernel
<13> me too
<1> startlogger
<0> motion: just about every single program
<1> or something
<1> :)
<12> maybe they are phasing out 6629 or something
<13> :-/
<13> god and gtkpod extracted files quicker then cp
<13> oddly enough
<10> *shrug*
<10> That's what it said
<0> well i hope they dont take to long to come out with the 9xxx nvidia drivers
<16> oh they will
<13> why are all the 7xxx and 8xxx packages masked still
<0> no idea
<13> ouch
<12> for a while they said it was because eselect still needed testing
<12> but i think eselect-opengl has been stable a while now
<17> someone know what's up with aic7xxx module saying "kernel panic - not syncing" at boot up?
<17> it happens every now and then
<0> Funklord: checked the forums yet?
<17> MrEcho: yeah.. can't find anything that looks related..
<0> bugs.gentoo.org ?
<17> I don't even have a drive connected to it
<0> do you even use it?
<17> I plan to, but not if it behaves like this
<17> ;P
<0> what kernel ver are u using?
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