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<0> equery d <package>
<0> b
<0> ahno d
<0> oteren, ahno you want to see the dependencies *from* the package?
<1> what packages would i need if i were to install netscape-flash on an entirely clean system
<1> thats what i wanna know
<1> because netscape-flash is using OSS, which i definitively dont want it to do
<0> emerge -vp <package>
<0> ?
<1> its already merged
<1> doesnt show its deps then
<0> emerge -ep package
<1> doesnt work either, because all the deps are already installed
<1> hmm
<0> -e -> acts like none are installed
<1> well, it doesnt show any deps



<1> which i am sure it has
<0> cat /var/db/pkg/<package>/RDEPEND?
<0> :)
<0> i think its rdepend
<0> or check the ebuild
<1> oteren oteren # cat /var/db/pkg/netscape-flash/RDEPEND
<1> cat: /var/db/pkg/netscape-flash/RDEPEND: No such file or directory
<1> :<
<0> ...
<0> full package name
<1> haha
<1> yes
<1> (i was already typing that i had forgotten it :p)
<0> :9
<0> lazy you
<1> !net-www/gplflash amd64? ( app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-baselibs app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs )
<1> hmmm
<0> see :)
<1> thats wrong though :p
<0> hmm :) why is that?
<1> i dont know how to read it
<1> does it mean it depends on gplflash?
<1> or the two inside the ()?
<0> hmm me not sure neither :)
<0> looking at DEPEND
<0> but look at the .ebuild?
<0> there are the deps too
<1> probably the two inside the () i guess
<1> cause gplflash blocks netscape-flash
<1> and vice versa
<2> thanks phisher1, just need to learn my differences between bash and php :o (lamp site)
<2> I don't write enough bash :/
<0> bash is easy
<0> not very powerfull neither
<0> but nice
<2> I like it
<0> not that i could unleash its full power anyway
<0> me too
<0> :)
<2> just writing a script to help change over some configs because we found a new single point of failure yesterday
<0> bash,sed,awk
<2> nothing says lovin like single points of failure
<0> expect is nice too
<2> awk/sed/grep/etc I'm decent with
<1> it was the two inside the () i think renihs
<1> thx
<0> for interactive scripting
<1> if you wonder why i am trying to find out all this, its because netscape
<1> netscape-flash is using OSS
<1> meaning i have to shutdown xmms each time i wanna have sound in my flash animations =p
<0> i can only use awk to print out rows, and sed only to replace :)
<0> oteren, why not tell xmms to use alsa?
<1> xmms is using alsa
<1> but emulating OSS shuts down everything else going on
<0> ?
<1> if i understood iamben_ correctly
<0> not here
<1> 'all' of alsa is needed to emulate the single /dev/dsp1 it seems
<1> cause no other sound works while an OSS is being emulated
<0> hmmm but i can have sound in my dosbox
<0> and still have sound in et



<0> et = oss
<0> i also have teamspeak and et running both
<0> hmm
<1> they are both OSS?
<0> yes
<1> -oss in my useflags is a bad idea in other words?
<0> dunno, i dont use oss
<0> but some tools have no other option
<1> you emulate the OSS through alsa?
<0> i use kernel alsa and oss "emulation?" from kernel
<0> driver i mean
<1> yeah, i got oss emulation too
<1> through the alsa-driver pkg
<1> the only difference is i got out of kernel modules though
<0> OSS Mixer API
<0> yes
<0> alsa are supposed to be better
<0> but i dont know howto disable the modem drivers in alsa package
<0> thats why i use kernel
<1> does it matter if you have a modem installed? :p
<0> no but on my laptop it loads both and they are interfering
<0> get no sound
<1> cant you do a -drivername in ALSA_CARDS in the make.conf?
<0> oteren, maybe but thats a livedvd
<0> i support every driver
<0> but if i include the modem driver too my sound is borked (on my laptop at least)
<1> oh
<0> hmm but that doesnt seem necesary anymore
<0> whatever
<0> i stick with the kernel alsa, easier to manage
<1> i would too
<0> so much broken stuff anyway on a 3000 packages system world rebuild
<1> if my card was properly supported there
<0> dont want to add to my "problems"
<1> will probably be when we enter 2007
<0> :)
<1> cause my soundcard is fairly new
<0> i have some old audigy on my desktop and an intel in my laptop i think
<1> do you have several /dev/dsp ?
<0> only if i create them :)
<1> i got an intel too
<1> snd-hda-intel
<0> not my driver
<1> you can create more? that would solve my problem :p
<1> i only have /dev/dsp
<1> there is something borked with my alsa anyways, because winecfg cant recognize that i have alsa on my system, so i am forced to use OSS there as well
<1> alsa works in every other program though
<0> winecfg hmm
<0> my ./wine has no config
<0> ..?
<1> try running winecfg
<1> and see if you can find alsa under audio
<0> i have working alsa
<0> in wine
<0> hmm
<0> k
<1> http://tynes.info/pictures/wine.png what i mean
<0> never used a gui wine cfg :)
<1> thats from after i recompiled with -oss, so i cant use oss there neither
<1> but oss works
<0> LOL
<0> alsa, arts, esound, oss, ...
<0> yes i have some
<0> jack, nas
<1> suxxor :<
<0> 3000 packages livedvd :)
<0> alot crap installed
<0> nearly
<1> the problem is i can NOT use the kernel alsa by any means
<0> why not?
<0> but thats not the problem anyway
<1> plugging in jack doesnt shut down loudspeakers
<0> just modules isnt it
<0> hmm that sounds nasty


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