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<0> patu
<1> rere
<2> liti
<3> anyone use openbox?
<4> I use black and flux
<3> I use fluxbox, just curious how openbox compares
<5> flux has more features
<5> openbox was pretty much the beginning of the *box wm's
<6> logic_box was kinda ****ty though
<7> I do
<6> blackbox was neato
<5> i love flux it's all i use
<7> I used flux until recently actually
<7> i don't think I'll go back
<8> kde can't be beaten
<7> die.



<8> you *box kids think you're so cool
<5> yea i tried to goto kde ... lasted about a week then back to flux
<7> wtf?
<8> does flux's system tray still look like ***?
<4> iamben: not as cool as the evilwm and ratpoison kids
<8> too small for some reason?
<8> CannedBar: true
<3> I started on blackbox, because the P166 I was using couldn't take much else
<3> Now I use Fluxbox, because the P-M 1.6Ghz I use can't take much else.
<8> im on kde on a tbird 1.2
<8> ba da ba ba ba im lovin it
<3> I expect that KDE has done a good job of grounding that tbird...
<5> my reason for using flux is the same as why i still use lilo ... i'm used to it
<3> of course the GNOMEs probably also keep it from flying as well.
<8> and i'll say the same thing about *box as i do about lilo... it works, but ****s in comparison to other options =)
<8> someone is spreading nasty rumors that you need a top of the line pc to run kde or gnome
<9> xfce4 > *
<10> wow
<10> these ***hats we bought out had the worse cable plant ever
<10> and their node management is something for me to poop on.
<10> and this stupid god damn ice chomper is ****ing SINGING GOD DAMNIT
<10> why can't he just stfu
<11> hey
<10> heh
<11> i compiled alsa to the kernel itself
<10> top post on digg
<11> and not as a module
<10> "Linus Trovals Curses in DRM Debat, Gets Comment Deleted"
<11> and in the alsa-howto
<11> it says that i should compile that as module
<10> man it's slowwww
<8> _uplink: built in works just as well if you already know which driver you need
<8> modules are for the guess-and-test crowd
<11> i do
<11> i know
<11> its a cs64xx
<8> so built in will be fine
<11> so i sould only emerge alsa-utils
<8> yep
<11> nothing else?
<11> well
<11> except for the deps ofcourse
<8> ***uming you have alsa in your use flags, any other alsa stuff you need will be pulled in automatically
<7> bitrot: where's that from? =o
<8> 16:47 < bitrot> top post on digg
<11> iamben, so i shouldn't change anything in /etc/modules.d/alsa
<11> so what config file should i edit?
<11> hey
<11> when i try to alsaconf
<11> it says
<11> no supported pnp or pci card found
<8> dont use alsaconf
<12> alsamixer
<11> hrm so?
<11> alsamixer?
<11> no need to configure?
<8> first do "cat /proc/asound/cards", does it list a card?
<11> 0 [CS46xx ]: CS46xx - Sound Fusion CS46xx
<11> Sound Fusion CS46xx at 0xbe000000/0xbd800000, irq 11
<8> then you're golden, unmute w/ alsamixer & have fun



<11> :)
<11> i'll give it a try
<13> run alsaconf and it configures itself more or less :p
<13> ..
<13> nvm
<8> well the point here is, if you built in the correct driver, there is nothing to configure.
<13> :p
<13> i read only three lines upwards ^
<11> :o
<11> pcm out
<11> pre 3d?
<11> or post3d?
<11> what's the diffrence?
<8> you can ignore almost all of those, unmute & turn up master & pcm
<8> master & pcm are really the only ones that matter right now
<11> what's master M & master 1?
<8> well one is master mono probably
<12> I have this little error when initialing the kernel, how can I fix this, usb 4-2: device not accepting address 5, error -110
<11> so
<11> my sound device for digital audio
<11> is /dev/pcm
<14> dsnoop is a way to record sound from your system, right?
<12> my usb keyboard/mouse works fine, but Id like to get rid of theses msg at boot...
<8> _uplink: you can't read/write directly from device nodes w/ alsa like you could w/ oss
<11> or /dev/dsp
<11> i just want to test it
<8> /dev/dsp is an oss thing
<11> something silly like cat /dev/urandom > /dev/ddsp
<11> won't work?
<8> you can cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp, but that is really testing alsa's oss emulation
<11> so
<8> best way for a real test is to jsut play a real audio file
<11> ok grr
<11> let me find one
<11> i had gigs of music
<11> all lost :(
<8> generally people who are wanting sound set up have at least one audio file available..
<11> :)
<14> haha
<14> bah, how i ****ing hate that people are starting to use those new digital application thingies for job applications
<14> no way to save anything
<14> so you need to write like 1000 words EXCLUDING your cover letter for each application :<
<11> ok
<11> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Permission denied
<11> xmms-mad-Message: failed to open audio output: OSS Driver 1.2.10
<8> 2 problems
<7> become a member of audio group
<7> and use alsa
<8> bingo x 2
<7> :)
<11> chmod +s xmms :?
<11> ;p
<7> gp***wd -a user audio
<11> i used usermod
<7> works too.
<11> ok
<11> bjorn and use alsa
<11> how do i do that
<11> i need to change that in xmms preferences?
<7> you select it in the xmms audio output plugin options
<7> yes
<11> k
<11> errors, genpaste time
<7> sure.
<14> hmm, weird *** wine that refuses to recognize my alsa drivers
<15> how would I skip the filesystem checking on ext2 partitions? when booting from a unexpected shutdown
<16> uplink pasted "****ing alsa", view at http://genpaste.pengu.in/pastes/show/269
<8> mikefoo: set the "p***no" column in fstab to 0
<15> well if there anything I can do at bootup?
<10> wow
<10> whoever wrote this post
<10> is an ***hat
<11> why
<10> http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20060727140038810&title=Sorry%2C+Linus&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=465804#c466084


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