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<0> c/c++ lua/amgelscipt
<0> angelscript
<1> well that is perfect for tv3d
<0> what other options other than tv3d
<1> hmmm
<1> if you're programmining in C++ .. i'm gonna ***ume you have a lot of time on your hands
<1> so why don't you just use irrlicht and modify it to your need
<0> im downloading alot of unes files (engines,Libs,SDK's) ect
<0> but you said irrlicht cannot be dll renamed
<1> dude in the end you can do whatever you want
<1> if you make any money
<1> just support irrlicht
<1> irrlicht probably doesn't make any money
<1> those guys would love it if you send them a % check
<1> the reason they let their software source code out is because they don't know how to make money with it
<1> so if you use irrlicht



<1> use it, modify it, rename it
<1> but if you make money
<1> try to share some of it
<1> see what i mean
<0> lol thats exactly what i wanna hear thanx
<1> yea no prob man
<1> i'm more sales/business orientated anyways
<1> so if you use irrlicht and make money
<1> you're doing irrlicht a favor
<0> im not going to sell my source code
<0> i'll contribute my updated features
<0> but not the game itself
<1> honestly don't contribute anything
<1> if you sell 10,000 copies
<1> for $30.00 each
<0> so do u think irrlichts fine
<1> give them like $2000.00 or something
<1> u see what i mean
<0> for my project
<1> sure frmo the screenshots
<1> since you know C++ u can modify it where it needs to be tweaked
<1> yup go for it
<0> since it is only a grpahics engine, i'd need to add openal+ogg vorbis,ode physics
<0> angelscript/lua
<0> modify rendering of triangles
<0> write a level editor
<0> tools
<0> ect
<0> i'd contribute my level editor
<0> 4sure
<1> do what you need to do to get ur game launched
<0> is it really dificult to add openal with vorbis support
<1> what is that
<0> OpenAL is a sound codec
<0> ogg vorbis is a sound format
<0> .ogg
<0> .ogg is like .mp3
<0> ogg is free
<0> mp3 is'nt
<0> i have cipherengine
<0> but i dnt have the newest c++
<0> only the free c++ 2005 express
<0> for ciphers tools it requires mfc
<0> and the c++ 2005 express does'nt have mfc
<0> i think
<0> and when i compile i get cannot find libc
<0> libcmt is present
<0> cipher would pretty decent if it was updated,Why not update the source
<0> check it out luzarius
<0> www.cipherengine.com
<0> abit out dated
<0> but do able
<0> cipher is just a graphics engine too im told
<1> i see
<0> what ya reckon
<0> when i compile cipher i get a libc error
<1> screenshots are ok
<1> i'd rather pay an extra $50.00 and use tv3d
<0> its not bad
<0> i know
<0> i kinda wasted my cash



<1> wasted
<1> ?
<0> its outdated
<0> but i would have to update it myself
<0> that fine
<0> i'd do it
<0> what movie codec would you use Luzarius
<1> something free right?
<0> it'll do it
<0> binks expensive
<1> i'm not sure
<0> free's fine
<0> what about theora
<1> do u have link
<0> or xvid
<0> to what
<0> xvid
<1> whatever is free
<1> do u know of any free ones
<0> this is a better screenshot for cipher
<0> http://www.whiteknightgames.com/wk_tt_screen.html
<0> yeah i do
<2> Don't we all...
<0> what r u after
<0> xvid
<0> www.xvid.org/
<0> if cipher got more updated it would be cool
<0> i'd have to add fragment,GLSL,
<0> Angelscript,lua, a video codec , support for dds
<0> cipher has good support for havok physics
<0> but im going to use ode
<3> ciphers straight C isn't it
<0> hey pitdroid
<0> yeah
<0> but it can become a c++
<0> using a wrapper
<0> its a SDK
<0> not a GDK
<0> you can ven make a world editor
<0> has anyone figured out how that c++ express 2005
<0> when i compile cipher it asks for libc
<1> did u try googling it or cipher forums
<0> if i can get it to compile id be so darn happy
<0> yeah
<0> luz
<0> nothing
<0> would /ignoredefaultlib: work
<1> lol
<0> what would i have to do
<0> its asking for libc
<0> has anyone figured that problem out b4
<0> Luzarius
<1> no
<1> i 've never used cipher
<1> get a hold of something that is not "express"
<0> code:blocks
<1> what
<0> with borland 5.5 compiler
<0> how is libjpg built where is the source for a build of the lib
<4> cr06, you know, reality Engine was selling for $700 ;)
<5> i heard reality engine was full of hacks..
<1> what kind of hacks
<6> haxality engine
<7> Reality Engine looks good but I'd want to see under the hood
<0> rambo do u know how libjpeg is built
<4> no idea
<4> I am not a coder
<5> i'm talking under the hood
<6> NaC
<0> anyone
<5> <-- java coder :)
<6> aka coffee fiend
<5> <-- Master of System.out.println
<6> aka coffee gopher


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