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<0> "they wouldn't work for free"
<1> Narris, is that somehow atypical?
<0> Learn C++
<0> make your game
<1> ChaosMage, you know, a handful of us are professional game developers. We're also the people unlikely to be interested in a garage game.
<0> _nx: sometimes your a bit elitist :\
<0> you're even.
<2> professional game developers... you already work for someone
<0> there are people who aren't professional though who are still very experienced and free
<0> there are people who are plenty capable but they don't want to do something for someone who did barely anything
<3> ChaosMage, one thing: ALWAYS start small
<3> don't get excited and expect a huge project going on at once
<2> Why
<2> I'm not a coder
<2> I don't need to start small
<3> well, if you're not even gonna code, the more



<3> are you gonna pay someone to code for you?
<2> Designing games is just a hobby for me
<2> I just design them for fun
<1> Scottc, yes, I'm a complete ****. Don't take that to mean that I don't have any respect for anyone else, though.
<3> well, designing doesn't accomplish much
<0> You can't just say "I'm looking for a coder, its an mmorpg, needs to be like runescape and wow"
<3> Scottc, rofl
<3> hahaha
<3> awesome
<0> Designing is important
<2> god
<0> _nx: what company you work for?
<3> yea, but what's the point of designing if nobody will implement it?
<1> Scottc, currently Microsoft.
<3> anyways, ChaosMage, the big iffy part of gamedev is not the programming
<4> design is like jerking off you can justify its value but not for long
<3> but getting enough artists to help
<3> prym, that was deep
<5> its not the design either... its not the artists, its getting it all to come together in the day to day.
<0> so you don't make games, _nx?
<4> i drop bombs yall
<1> hmm? I do make games
<3> Microsoft makes games
<0> Microsoft makes games?
<1> SURPRISE
<3> yes, they make Minesweeper, Internet Backgamon, etc
<3> j/k :)
<0> lol
<0> hahaha
<3> no, they do have a big game development studio in Salt Lake City
<3> and some more stuff in Redmond
<0> for minesweeper?
<1> actually, SLC was sold the other year
<3> lol
<3> was it?
<0> I liked freelancer
<1> SLC did Amped and used to do lynx golf way back when
<0> So I take it you use Direct3d, _nx?
<0> and wow I loved Amped
<1> I'm not much of a graphics guy. I have and can do D3D, but only when pressed.
<3> _nx, ChaosMage wants to press you
<0> What games have you worked on?
<0> If you can tell us that anyway
<1> I did Forza the other year. I had smaller roles in a bunch of games before that, such as Halo PC and Train Simulator and Casino and a few others.
<4> ill do u guys 1 better ill let u PLAY my game
<4> i worked on GTA3
<4> did most the cooler parts of it
<0> I know a guy at Santa Cruz Games.....
<1> =)
<4> the finishing touches on jiggle skids
<4> the way cops heads explode
<4> im a detailist designer/coder
<0> hm
<2> pyrm: so you did the gta headshots?
<4> yup
<0> hmm....
<0> any OpenGL gurus alive yet?
<2> I liked the headshots in GTA:SA I don't remember GTA3
<4> oh there good its based on same code tho i wasnt there for that
<4> i knew when that cops head exploded people had to really feel it to be satisfied



<4> so i spent a lot longer that was appropriate (in some peoples eyes) perfecting it
<2> really it was a bit over the top
<2> considering nothing else exploded like that :p
<6> prym: So... you've switched to Opera now, right?
<4> yeah im using it
<4> if it ****s with me tho i might drop it
<4> irt just was all imn not the defuault abalblablala i []DONOT show this again it
<1> prym is infected with a mind virus. Quick, run!
<2> viruses generally aren't transmitted airborn
<1> What, except for the cold and the flu?
<1> "The cold" can be caused by a few thousand different virus types.
<2> they're transmitted in saliva!
<2> you have to get sneezed on
<1> That's really not true
<2> or come in contact with something that got sneezed on
<2> you can't prove a thing!
<7> hmmm, let me check out this Breeze
<8> i like the minimal skins, breeze simplified micro with 80% icon size for opera works for meh :)
<0> where have all the GL gurus gone?
<1> DirectX ate them.
<6> Sigh. USA has their own "A4" paper size standard too?
<9> if A4 isn't ISO, I'm gonna be sick
<6> "US letter" is apparently their answer to A4...
<9> I believe it's iso though... 210*297mm
<10> A4 is a standard paper size, defined by the international standard ISO 216 as 210 mm
<10> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A4_paper_size
<1> The USA has no need for foreign standards!!!
<9> of course.. but americans are sooo nationalistic..
<11> <9> What do you mean, national racism?
<2> No we're not! glory to the american race
<9> yes you are...
<9> believe me, I have nothing against americans...
<6> These ****ing sockets have me confused to the maximum.
<2> omg you're a terrorist!
<9> nope, spent five weeks in the us this summer, and didn't blow up anything
<6> Wish I could afford to go there.
<2> you were doing social terrorism :p
<6> I could stay for free at StoneCyqh's place.
<9> indeed ;)
<1> LaRssA, I know, it's painfully obvious to most of us.
<1> Some of us even comprehend that patriotism isn't always a good thing.
<6> Country fanboys?
<1> country and suburban
<1> and young
<6> "USA can display five billion polygons a nanosecond! Beat that, Holland!"
<1> all three of those groups are very patriotic
<1> the rural and the young don't know any better, I'm not sure what the suburban use for an excuse.
<2> the suburban have got it made why do they want the status quo to change
<1> Well, they live the way they want to, but that's just as true for everyone else.
<6> I don't live the way I want to.
<1> Maybe they all have children, that can really mess up your brain.
<6> Kids **** indeed.
<7> kids are cool
<6> At least babies.
<7> I just wish mine would go in the potty
<7> he held it for as long as he could the other day, until it hurt
<6> Wouldn't mind having a 14 year old daughter as my personal *** toy/slave.
<7> now he equates going potty with pain
<7> :)
<6> ... :)
<1> KimmoA, you evil person.
<6> ^_^
<1> I'm sure that a lot of people would throw you in jail for saying that.
<2> I'm going to kill you for thinking it :p
<12> wtf lol
<12> & kimmoa calls me a troll
<7> you mean banging your daughter is somehow wrong?
<12> it means you are one sick ****
<1> see?
<12> is molestation/incest commonly practiced in your neck of woods kimmoa? inbreeding would explain your astounding stupidity
<3> moebius-, KimmoA was born 9 montths after Mardigras
<3> father unkown
<3> that explains his view of life
<2> I got 1 gb stick of ram


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