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<Fly_Mario> you?
<_Astaroth> browsing for some new hw, I havent updated my box in a year
<_Astaroth> I want a new gfx card for Oblivion
<_Astaroth> seems I need a new mb as well, agp is hardly supported anymore
<_Astaroth> I could get the 7800GS for agp, but it doesnt perform that good it seems
<Fly_Mario> guess its time to upgrade my system too. hmmm
<_Astaroth> I already own a x800xt pe, and this card performs worse it seems http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_e-geforce_7800_gs_co_superclock_review/page11.asp
<_Astaroth> but I want 3.0 shaders!
<Fly_Mario> yeah I have the same card
<Fly_Mario> I like the card a lot though
<Fly_Mario> x800
<_Astaroth> I hate the lack of sm3.0
<_Astaroth> for 2.0 its fine though
<Fly_Mario> it plays every game I try fine so oh well
<_Astaroth> I do a lot of shader coding, and the limitations on sm2 are driving me crazy
<_Astaroth> I dont have the patience for using ref. rasterizer
<Fly_Mario> I have a lot of *** so SM2 doesn't bother me
<_Astaroth> sm3 > ***
<Fly_Mario> I expected you to say the same thing. But one day you will get *** and you will realise what I am talking about son.
<nights> lol
<nights> Fly_Mario, getting a kiss from princess toadstool doesnt count as ***
<_Astaroth> touche
<Fly_Mario> dude.. you don't know what goes on behind the code
<nights> hahaha
<nights> :D
<nights> do you?
<Fly_Mario> she's a little slut I tell you
<nights> hahaha
<nights> i think she look most horny in smb3
<nights> or smw
<nights> tied first
<Fly_Mario> she likes being tied up thats for sure
<nights> haha
<nights> its a shame they dont ever feature a bonus course, or a special ending :p
<nights> everytime a finish a new mario im like, awww
<Fly_Mario> I just wish that bitch would stop getting in trouble
<nights> now, for the striped rocket trails
<nights> Fly_Mario: but then there would be no super mario games!!! hello?
<nights> jk :p
<Fly_Mario> http://www.lemonzoo.com/content/M/15308-content.wmv
<nights> lol
<nights> jeez
<nights> i wish my girlfriend had a pair of those
<nights> Fly_Mario: whos that slut?
<_Astaroth> ehehe, what an idea....
<nights> hehe yeah
<Gambit-> A pair of what?
<Hummin> hiii fellas
<Hummin> Any 3d modellers in here that use maya?
<Hummin> I'm actually a developer, but I've managed to learn just enough of maya to create a character model
<Hummin> see it here: http://www.hummin.nu/elf.gif
<Dr_Rambo> maya?
<ok32> not bad)
<Hummin> she's still split in half though.. (duplicate)
<nights> you should smooth it for us
<Dr_Rambo> looks pretty damn good
<Dr_Rambo> you got some edge problem
<Dr_Rambo> that you need to turn
<Dr_Rambo> "turn
<Hummin> thanks.. all normals are averaged though
<Hummin> turn ?.. backside?
<Dr_Rambo> some edge near the inner thigh
<Dr_Rambo> no
<Dr_Rambo> edge turning
<Dr_Rambo> like |\|
<Dr_Rambo> and turn to |/|
<Dr_Rambo> because it pops the wrong way
<Dr_Rambo> if you use 3DSMAX
<Dr_Rambo> there is a easy to use command called edge turning, you select the edge and press "turn
<Dr_Rambo> and it turns
<Dr_Rambo> LOL
<Hummin> aah
<Dr_Rambo> I don't now how maya does it
<Hummin> they seem to be right.. but I want some *hard* edges where the belt is at and other things
<Hummin> and I haven't learned that part of maya just yet
<Dr_Rambo> it simply connects the vertex order the other way
<Hummin> =)
<Hummin> yeah.. I remember smoothing groups from waay back when I fiddled with 3ds r4 (for dos)
<Hummin> but maya doesn't seem to have anything like it?
<Dr_Rambo> no, look at your inner thigh
<Hummin> alright.. hold up
<Dr_Rambo> no, look at your inner thigh, near the kneecap
<Dr_Rambo> some ugly edge there
<Hummin> aaah.. yeah
<Dr_Rambo> the edge needs to be re-ordered
<Hummin> yeah.. I'll fine-tune it a bit.. thanks for pointing that out
<Dr_Rambo> np
<Hummin> http://www.hummin.nu/elf_back.gif
<Hummin> the two questions I had though..
<Hummin> I'll prolly figure the normals/smoothing thingie out in a bit..
<nights> damn
<Hummin> but then I want to texture her.. preferably draw directly on her
<Dr_Rambo> I can't quite see the polygon
<Hummin> what app/plugin to use?
<Dr_Rambo> if you render a wirefram
<nights> someone know much about the steps around projecting and unprojecting mouse position?
<Hummin> dr_rambo: I fixed it
<Hummin> =)
<Hummin> is ther any plugin that integrates with photoshop ?
<Hummin> that will let you turn the model and zoom and draw directly on it?
<Hummin> or something similar?
<Dr_Rambo> try render brb
<Hummin> and does anyone know how I can find out the polycount for the model ?
<Hummin> render brb ?
<Hummin> is that an application or maya option?
<Hummin> dr_rambo ?
<jambit> hey
<Dr_Rambo> back
<Dr_Rambo> BRB = BE RIGHT BACK
<Dr_Rambo> LOL
<Dr_Rambo> I was on phone
<Dr_Rambo> anyway
<Dr_Rambo> you need to render your model in wireframe
<Dr_Rambo> so we can see better the polygon distribution for comment
<Dr_Rambo> about texturing
<Dr_Rambo> I thought Maya is got Maya ARTISAN built in
<Dr_Rambo> you should be able to draw directly on it?..
<Dr_Rambo> check your maya manual
<Dr_Rambo> if not, try Deep paint, or Zbrush 2
<Dr_Rambo> Deep Paint 3D V2 I mean
<Decept404> maya artisan is ok
<Hummin> ooh
<Hummin> yeah
<Hummin> I just had a look at the manual
<Hummin> ****.. this app got soo much stuff in it
<Hummin> so maya's 3d texturing stuff is alright?
<Hummin> I tried zbrush 2 once and was totally lost
<Hummin> but I'
<Hummin> ve seen increadible results from that application
<Decept404> you're still better off in photoshop
<Decept404> maya 7 has slick psd integration
<Hummin> oh yeah ?
<Hummin> damn.. is it a pain the butt to learn of to get that set up ?
<Hummin> is an autogenerated texturemap *enough* ?
<Hummin> to get me started ?
<Decept404> nothing is ever enough
<Hummin> hehe
<Hummin> I'm thinking that I should use a texture for the face only
<Hummin> and another one for the body
<Hummin> for more detail in the face..
<Fly_Mario> newb level has just raised by 10 points here
<lordfenix> hello
<lordfenix> me and a group for people are working on a game and would like to know if anyone would like to help... its a FPS squad based... if u like more info plz contact me at lordfenix.dc@gmail.com we will have a site shortly
<ryan[WIN]> where's your business plan
<ryan[WIN]> your basic design
<ryan[WIN]> etc.
<prym> any screen shotts?
<lordfenix> the design group is being put together now...
<prym> i dont need no stinkin business plan i need a golden vision
<Madsy> lordfenix: What talents do you allready have, and who are you looking for?
<lordfenix> i have 2 programers but they also have jobs of there own so mostly they can do is Q&A for me.... i have one animater and 2 artist


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