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<0> http://www.projectoffset.com
<1> yeah
<1> it's amazing
<0> unfortunatly, Im neither innovative or a thinker
<2> Kerbox: actually, innovation is social process.
<0> yes, thats my problem :P
<2> Kerbox: if you don't network or don't socialize with other engineers/creative-types then you won't be innovative.
<0> makes sense
<2> Hence my website :)
<0> so its just a general nettworking site for eingeers/creative-types?
<0> dang... networking/engineers
<2> http://elitefrontier.org
<0> looks interesting :)
<3> RUEbaiYaT, i thought beeing innovative was doing things in a different new kind of way, not networking with people
<2> moralcode: that's a naive conceptualization.
<3> well we have different interpretation of the word thats all
<3> i take it you are an engineer yourself?
<2> moralcode: basically you'll get more 'innovation' from a room of socializing smart engineers' than a room of one engineer that is smarter than any one of those engineers.
<3> well, i dont think the word engineer is mentioned in the dictionary under innovation
<3> havent checked thouh
<3> though
<2> moralcode: Have you worked in a corporation? :)
<3> no
<2> moralcode: got PhD ?
<3> no
<3> oh i see where we are getting at
<2> moralcode: hmM?
<3> whats hmM?
<2> moralcode: I am just wondering what your conclusion is?
<3> i cannot make any conclusion yet
<2> [12:35] <3> oh i see where we are getting at
<2> what do you 'see' ?
<3> yeah, but then you stopped talking,so i didnt get any conclusion
<4> you need a good slapping
<3> me?
<4> yes
<3> why?
<4> you're being completely uncooperative in this conversation. Even I wonder what you thought we were getting at.
<2> moralcode: In the 'real world', socializing between engineers to create real innovation is not condoned by management.
<2> moralcode: except maybe at Apple.
<3> and google?
<3> :)
<2> moralcode: Google would count yes :)
<3> of course i understand that very creative things can come out of "smart" people interacting, dont see what that has to do with the definition of innovative though....
<2> MeshMan: innovation is a social process :) no social process means no innovation
<5> so to say something is 'innovative'
<5> is something applied to a person?
<5> "You are not very innovative."
<2> MeshMan: If something is innovative, it is a product of a social process of some sort.
<5> "She is very innovating."
<2> MeshMan: Even Carmack had help.
<2> :)
<5> Social process of what?
<5> Improving?
<5> I can't put my finger on what its defining.
<2> Eh ok let me get some Google references...
<5> Innovations - The act of introducing something new
<3> dont see the word social and process here: http://www.dictionary.net/innovation
<5> thats what i just checked
<6> sigh
<3> RUEbaiYaT, maybe you have read some books i havent
<3> bik, ;)
<2> http://www.statcan.ca/english/research/88F0006XIE/88F0006XIE2003006.pdf
<4> Innvoation is an individual process which is aided greatly by social interaction.
<2> http://www.cambridge.org/us/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=0521393175
<3> _nv, now we are getting somewhere
<2> http://www.druid.dk/wp/pdf_files/00-11.pdf
<7> MeshMan, incidentally, did you have any other RDBMs questions you wanted to put forward?
<3> innovation AS<-- a social process, not innovation IS a social process
<5> Gambit, I did after you left. Lemme think what they were.
<2> http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3705/is_200501/ai_n13632937
<5> moralcode: Exactly what I was thinking
<5> It doesn't have a definite context.
<7> moralcode, you'd better renice that innovation pid, otherwise you'll get stuck in a priority inversion if you don't have the technology you need.
<5> But in this case, RUE is saying it IS and ONLY Social process.
<5> I have a feeling its not.
<2> http://techinnsocchange.blogspot.com/2003_10_01_techinnsocchange_archive.html
<2> Darn, don't take me so litterally :)
<2> That's really boneheaded.
<5> Erm.
<5> We are trying conclude what Innovation is
<3> Gambit-, i didnt understand what you were saying
<5> And yet you state all your points.
<5> And now you tell us NOT to take you literally? :P
<2> I am condensing those URLs into one sentence, so have some flexibility please.
<7> moralcode, then, alas, my humor is lost.
<3> Gambit-, im sure it was great
<2> How about this sentence "Innovation ? Social Process".
<7> RUEbaiYaT, you're missing a : in there for that operator.
<2> Now go Google.
<3> how about we drop this now :)
<0> "Social process + individual effort -> Innovation"
<2> Kerbox: ok I can dig that :)
<5> Ok so now define this:
<5> "Doom3 is very innovative."
<6> you introduced too many variables ;)
<5> Stack overflow? :P
<3> you know too much Gambit- :)
<5> Humour is best when something is taken and powered to silly levels.
<7> MeshMan, How juvenile.
<8> my god
<8> 1700 downloads
<8> this is out of hand
<8> 1,770
<6> usually downloads of a project are a good thing?
<8> yes
<8> but
<8> i have 20gb of bandwidth
<8> 500 of those downloads were yesterday
<8> 300 were from jan25 until yesterday
<8> and the rest were today
<3> slz, slashdotted?
<8> download dot commed
<3> i see :)
<8> i hope it doesn't get blogged until the end of this month maybe next month
<3> that project offset site was really awesome
<8> yeah
<7> slz, so what is this thing?
<8> http://sharko.sleazysoft.com
<8> its tons of addictive fun
<6> slz- and all that happened was it got put on download.com?
<8> 400 downloads in the last 2 hours actually
<8> yeah
<6> is it on the front page or something?
<8> lol i dunno
<6> nice. I like how you just charge for the online scoreboard, thats a good idea
<7> heya rangar
<9> hey Gam
<9> slz
<5> Range
<9> yo MM
<8> thanks bik
<8> i figured the game was simple enough to be largely free
<8> but if htey want to use my bandwidth, pay up
<7> slz, you should stick up a bittorrent.
<8> it wouldn't help with the download.com people
<8> they link straight to my download script
<8> but
<7> ah, gatcha.
<8> my download script can redirect to mirrors and stuff if need be
<7> looks like it needs bes :)
<8> heh ill just pay for more bandwidth no big deal really
<8> its like 2.50$ for another gig
<8> which handles another buttload of downloads
<8> its worth it to me
<8> pitdroid, 20000 / 3.5
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