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<0> http://www.sun.com/servers/x64/x4500/
<1> there's plenty of fans in them
<1> the 4200's sound like a freakin' jet plane
<2> actually, if they're mounted properly in temperature-conductive aluminum frames, cooling shouldn't be that much of a problem
<1> and the 4500's are simply 4200's with a drive cage.
<0> actually
<3> K4r3n!!!
<3> WAKIE
<3> K4r3n!!!
<3> WAKIE
<0> the whole front end is covered in fans
<3> NOW
<3> WAKIE
<0> they probably have fairly high rpm fans too
<1> cretin- what'd i just say/
<1> HMMM?
<0> Yes, when standard for 4U server is four to eight hard disks, Thumper delivers forty-eight HDDs with 24 TB of raw storage. And it will double within the year, when 1TB drives will be sold.
<1> you'll note they're also SATA drives
<0> its an opteron apparently... hmm... do I have to run solaris?
<3> WAKIE
<3> NOW
<0> yes
<3> K4r3n!!!
<1> cretin- no, but you could run opensolaris
<4> opterons have nothing to do with solaris requirements...
<0> the move has been towards sata ever since it was released
<5> notluke: will
<3> we need video of Murex doing his Punk Rock Aerobics
<0> you know one thing I don't understand
<1> women?
<3> with a swearband and calf warmers on
<2> that x4500 can weigh up to 170Lbs, fully-loaded.
<0> apparently all hard drives regardless of interface are identical - the only differing component is the interface controller
<1> more or less
<3> cretin, to an extent
<0> however, scsi drives were always expensive
<2> cretin: between manufacturers, the motor ***embly and heads are very different.
<0> and you'd find companies like ibm offering bull**** warranties on them too (like 10 years for instance)
<3> I think some 'high end' SCSI drives are actually made a bit 'better'
<6> scsi drives have higher mtbf's
<6> generally
<0> yes, so I've thought
<0> because they do seem 'better' - more reliable etc.
<5> i only use 5400 RPM western digital hdd's
<0> also scsi was a faster interface so you'd expect they'd be quicker
<5> nothing else compares
<3> I would have to think that some disk platters come off the line at a higher quality than the one before or after it
<0> until sata anyway, apparently its quicker than scsi
<1> in certain circumstances
<3> and perhaps those higher quality platters go into a SCSI drive?
<6> yeah
<6> its similar to other components
<0> but yeah, I remember also hearing about 'sata disks built on scsi disks'
<0> I think its seagate raptor
<6> binning pieces according to how well they perform
<1> all i know is i need gb ethernet.
<3> the SCSI drives might get new motors sooner or something
<0> they cost about the same as scsi disks, but they have the same bull**** warranties etc. as any of the scsi disks had
<3> and there is another possible reason for the higher cost
<4> sporq: psh, get 10GbE
<1> CompHobby- gimmer the $
<3> they force you to buy the extended warranty
<0> heh, yes
<7> Murex: I hope you are spending my money well
<3> how does CPU usage on sata look compared to scsi, and does that even ****ing matter very much anymore.
<0> I doubt it
<0> that it matters anymore, that is
<3> it was a big deal if your IDE CD Burner needed 30 of you 100 available megahurts
<2> sata cpu usage is right on par with scsi, AS LONG AS you have a controller and drives that have tagged command queuing enabled.
<3> but not so much when you have 3ghz
<2> jpres: "megahertz"
<0> with multicore processors making it to desktops now etc. and processors into the ghz ranges
<3> felix, it was intenetioanl
<7> it helps if you run a high-performance OS like Windows 98SE
<3> :)
<0> ata dma helps :)
<3> I have Win98SE PLUS!
<0> no more patches for you!
<3> nope
<3> it is 100% secured
<3> microsoft doesn't need to patch it anymore
<0> I always thought its networking was weak
<3> win98 was just weak
<0> yes
<1> it was ok when it came out.
<3> but loonix was no better
<1> it was an improvement over win95
<3> for the 'average user' anyway
<3> hell yes
<3> 98 was great, in 98
<3> as 95 was great in 95
<4> I have an NT4 disk or two around still
<3> dude
<4> I bet NT4 for MIPS is about as secure as it gets
<8> 95 was great in 95
<8> 98 always ****ed
<3> I still have a couple dozen NT4 servers aro;und
<4> because no one ****ing tries to hack it anymore
<0> hmm
<0> silly indians
<3> I wish I could find my ****ing BeOS disc
<3> or I wish I would look for an iso
<1> jpres- i think you can download it.
<3> sporq, I think just the x86 version or some crippled POS
<3> or both
<3> I looked at the free beos site thing a while back, and it turned me off for some reason
<5> i have BeOS
<5> 4 and 5
<3> for ppc?
<5> and BeProductive
<3> send me a 5ppc iso
<5> i dont think the PPC edition is on the CD i bought
<5> i think its Intel only
<3> **** you then
<5> fine
<3> go back to jacking off or whatever ytou were doing
<5> i was working
<3> Murex, BTW, those codes you sent me for the space shuttle must have been old
<7> what exactly does "working" entail?
<3> because I haven't seen anything about it crashing back to earth on the news yet, an I clearly told it to.
<3> arubin, testing internet connectivity
<5> arubin: reading fark
<7> heh
<5> and listening to my ipod
<9> touching my pp
<3> I actually 'worked' today
<5> hahahahahaahah yeah right
<3> I was ****ing tired when i got home
<7> I was *at* work today
<3> no dude
<3> I was at like ummm 5 sites today
<3> and one of the 5, twice
<5> you mean the 5 wendy's between the office and your house
<3> no
<3> 2 schools and 3 admin bldgs
<3> PLUS
<3> my office
<7> he was also at my office
<7> under my desk
<5> dude raping school kids isnt "work"
<9> yeah quit raping school kids sicko
<9> what the ****
<3> and I hade 2 more blaq chiks call me 'baby' again
<7> Murex: some of the football players are tough to hold down
<3> now
<3> if i went to work
<5> arubin: not when ghb is involved
<3> and started callin all the ladies 'baby' they would fire my ***
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