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<0> you should ****ing fire turtle- then
<0> if he can't even set up a god damn voip pbx
<1> yeah!!
<2> I need working T.38 and a god damn slick PBXish web interface that isn't either so ****ing ****ty or so ridiculously convoluted and expensive
<1> ****ing send him packing
<1> then piss on his wifi
<0> tog_, and free
<0> like
<0> FreeBX
<2> FreePBX is a piece of ****
<2> next
<0> oh
<0> I just made that up
<0> it's a real project?
<2> hahah
<2> yes, it's a web interface for asterisk



<0> HEH
<1> tog_: i will go to the 2600 meeting tonight and kidnap a few of the digium nerds and make them give you free ****
<2> if you want to make up another sarcastic name try openbpx
<2> er openpbx
<2> that's the name of an asterisk fork
<3> tog: we use avaya's stuff at work
<3> it works well
<3> but isnt cheep
<2> that does T.38 with SpanDSP
<2> but it's like uber alpha quality
<4> digium? http://sofaswitch.org/d/
<3> ya it does t.38
<2> I don't need a stupid office PBX, I need a multi-tenant hosted PBX solution
<2> you know, as an ISP who wants to make money selling good full-featured voip to clients
<3> tog: it would do that
<4> how much are you willing to pay for this solution?
<4> o wait this is #'free'bsd
<2> eh, I don't know
<2> I'm already looking at getting a $5.5k audiocodes box
<2> but that's just a dumb media gateway
<2> just for its T.38 support
<3> tog: 5.5k isnt gunna buy you much of avaya anything
<2> Avaya is one of those companies that I want to stab in the face that sells licenses.
<0> tog_, I have a arris box that my former voip provider left at my house
<3> there **** is stupid expensive
<0> if that would help you get started
<2> what the hell is an arris
<4> you just need to p*** t.38 through? you have the end point edvices that talk using t.38?
<4> devices
<2> if I want stupid expensive, I can pay monthly fees per user and have quite a nice hosted PBX setup
<2> synthetic: sure, SPA-2100s
<2> I don't need to p*** t.38 through
<2> I need t.38 termination
<4> I have t.38 termination =]
<2> on?
<2> well I'm not talking about two SPA-2100s talking to each other or something.
<4> well termination on the carrier;s side or your side
<2> I'm talking about a voip provider (me) with a customer who has an SPA-2100 hooked up to a fax machine needing to fax out my PRI using t.38 termination
<4> hmm one of my clients can do that
<4> im trying to remember the name of the device
<2> my two choices for that right now are:
<0> tog_, just build a linux box man
<0> mandrake has that **** in yum
<2> 1) Play with openpbx.org and see if its svn/non-release t.38 termination stuff works at all
<2> 2) $5.5k audiocodes media gateway
<2> yum?
<5> yum is a stupid *** package manager
<2> is that their package manager?
<2> yeah.
<2> JP: you'll have to be a little more specific than "mandrake has a package manager."
<4> damnit its friday man and i just ate a nice lunch
<4> not in thinking mode right now
<5> me too i have jalapeno potato chips
<2> are you in pooping mode?
<6> holy ****, there is a psp system with two games going on ebay for 9,100.00$
<6> 2 bids
<6> i think there must be a key of coke involved
<0> tog_, I was making a funny
<0> I don't have a solution for you, so just ignore anything I say.
<4> vegastream!
<4> thats it



<2> JP: you ****
<4> http://www.voiptalk.org/products/Vegastream+400
<2> yeah, same thing as the audiocodes
<2> a t.38-capable media gateway
<4> buy audiocodes they are the best and i want my stock to go up
<4> ;]
<2> looks like vegastream is like $3400 for a single PRI and audiocodes is like $4500 for a single PRI
<2> (I'm sorry but something that does SIP/H323 to PSTN being above $1k is ridiculous)
<4> you are brainwashed by ***tricks !
<0> tog_, they just want their cut man.
<4> 20% to the sales guy
<2> I guess, since sylantro and other such ridiculously-licensed softswitches just seem... ****ing lame to me
<2> a softswitch to handle your voicemail and call-routing and general intelligence being $500k - $1.5mil?
<3> tog: we have avaya g350's and g700's with sb8300 so they can act as a LSP if the ip network dies for our media gateways
<2> like whatever commpartners uses
<4> all hail sonus
<2> **** me running
<1> tog_: 6 will **** you dry
<2> Ax: If I wanted to pay for Avaya I'd go use a wholesale hosted PBX solution for like $9/seat +1.50 +3 for more features +1.50 for voicemail box +3 for being included in the auto-attendant
<4> being the voip provider i wonder what your network consists of
<2> Asterisk and ATAs?
<4> and pris to the pstn?
<2> yes
<4> must be costly
<2> PRIs are, sure.
<4> and why that choice as opposed to SIP/h323'ing over to a pstn carrier
<2> I do that for LD termination
<4> ahh ok
<2> but I need DIDs and such and your options are pretty limited for that
<3> Murex my PXP01 cable came for ipod
<1> yay
<2> anyway, I can take my PRIs and plug them into an audiocodes media gateway, that's fine
<1> i have one of those fancy things Axthrower
<2> but I still need a cool softswitch for my purposes and everybody seems to want to bloody up your ***hole for one
<1> i think
<3> ipod dock connector, breaks it out to left/right audio, video, and changes
<3> s/changes/charges/
<1> oh that uses the data port huh
<3> yes
<1> thats cool
<1> the one i have does not
<2> rectal bleeding, sirs. rectal bleeding.
<1> it used the minijack
<3> maybe i'll wire it up tonight
<4> you needs DIDs huh
<4> =]
<3> and have the MUSICS for carride to mountain
<4> I have those
<2> if I want people to have phone numbers that people can call them on!
<2> kind of important
<2> I have that covered, I have a nice CLEC, I'll do that **** via PRI.
<0> dude
<7> Hi
<0> you should just get like 5 phone lines from the phone company
<0> and set everyone up on party lines
<0> make it retro and cool
<0> Tog Party Inc
<0> make turtle- change his name to Jenny, and he could be the operator
<5> my name is laquisha bitch, i'm not changing it for anyone.
<8> what's that linux server tool for deploying server roles from a central control panel
<7> I'm a new FreeBSD user, and I can't get mod_fcgid to work in a jail. The error msg : Can't create shared memory
<9> `Vinz`: do you know how to read?
<7> I tried to set security.jail.sysvipc_allowed to 1, but still the same error msg
<9> `Vinz`: do you know how to read?
<7> ?
<9> what does the topic say
<7> oh, sorry
<7> bye
<5> WAY TO GO HURTING PEOPLES FEELINGS SOME MORE!
<1> man i wish i was smart like you fellas
<1> turtle-: will you teach me
<5> you are smart that's why you buy sophisticated preciouses
<10> Sigh.


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