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<0> 9-slice mode how could I forget that..
<1> Yet for most flash developers you can still get by with flash 6
<0> well that's the thing: those I just said, there's no way to get them in 7 or 6
<1> not many people will need those features yet always nice to have.
<1> Yeah true.
<0> I'm working on an f8 project and it's making a world of difference
<0> it doesn't look flash at all
<1> nice
<0> it looks kinda custom engine-like...
<1> :)
<0> the text is readable for starters
<1> hehe
<2> I am so looking forward to Flash 9 and AS3
<2> Little bits of drool right here on my chin
<0> 9-scale means rapid development of complex skinned components
<3> wow i've been working at this all stupid night
<3> i wanna stab someone
<0> wawb, flash 8.5 will be out before flash 9
<1> wawb yeah it would be interesting what Adobe does and what products become "shared" like adobe premeir features into flash and vice versa
<0> wawb, better look for that :)
<2> 8.5 is AS3?
<0> wawb, yep 8.5 is 8.0 with AS3
<2> When's that happening, I wonder?
<1> Oh I was thinking of as3 video plugins etc
<0> had to happen H1 2006 but now I think they moved it to October 2006
<1> actionscript 3
<2> I can wait till October.
<0> they are slowly adapting to the Vista development model
<2> Ah
<0> where it's "always ready for next month"
<2> When's Vista coming out?
<1> I just don't like that many choices in an OS....
<0> and it's never ready
<2> Right
<1> you have the "gamers edition, home, pro, etc.."
<4> im just dissapointed vista won't feature their new file system
<5> sup master, long time no type
<2> Yeah, that Media Edition gives me the ****s.
<0> [MaSteR], that's preliminary, I have the feeling they'll clean it up
<1> wvhydrowv yeah was taking a "vacation"
<1> but you know what those are like..
<5> very rarely i know
<5> lol
<1> I hope so suv4x4.
<1> No it wasn't a vacation
<1> I would call it everything but that but eh.
<0> [MaSteR], for example there was supposed to be Aero Basic, Aero, and Aero Gl***, but they dropped the variations to 2 now
<1> It's when you end up doing all the house work fixing things for your parents and hardly have time for even your own friends.
<0> And Aero Basic is so ugly it's as if it's not there
<0> So basically it's 1
<1> I c..
<0> anyone here tried IE7?
<0> beta 2
<3> #!@#! WHy is it flash has to make everthing text wise look like abosolute ***
<1> nope not yet will wait for the vista for now but I heard tab browsing etc just like ff.
<3> it looks just spiffy before i export the movie
<2> I won't try IE7 releases... Why would I try betas
<1> Veritas` cuz it's flash.
<0> wawb, cuz they rock?
<2> What rocks about them?
<0> wawb, I'm also not installing them on my actual PC, I use Virtual PC
<2> Smart move
<0> but besides the tabs and FF-like layout, it's also tons of bugfixes and standards improvements
<0> and security improvements
<0> so it'll finally bring IE to 21-st century
<0> literally
<2> Sooper. Me and my Firefox will be over here waving to you
<1> bbiab.
<0> the moment IE 7 is out means I stop caring for IE5 (because I chose so..) and this means all major browsers support PNG alpha channel, and this means interesting designs
<2> IE5?
<0> wawb, that'd be version 5 of IE.
<0> :)
<2> Why aren't you using IE6?
<0> I'm using Firefox
<0> I'm talking from the perspective of a web dev
<0> who has to care what *others* use :)
<2> oic
<2> I was on Netscape 4.7 until Firefox came around
<4> eugh, nutscrape
<0> wawb, that'd mean quite some time
<2> C'mon, give 4.7 its props.
<0> at the time I thought of NS 4.7 what I think of IE 5.0 now
<0> old, buggy, full of propritary ****, and holding me from doing cool sites
<0> funny how things turn around
<2> Is IE5 still in that much use that you have to worry about it?
<0> stats vary, but 3 to 8 %
<0> 5.5 is not the worst offender even, 5.0 is
<0> and not many sites make the difference in their stats, which pisses me off
<0> 5.5 is closer to 6.0 than 5.5 is to 5.0
<2> Why won't my mother learn to update her computer?
<2> I just KNOW she's still on IE 5
<0> well if you look at the interface of IE 5 and 6, they are like clones, there's no benefit for the user
<0> the reason IE 6 is so high now is rather because people switch to XP
<0> and XP is candy GUI therefore cool
<2> Right
<2> Hehh. First thing I did was kill the Themes service :)
<0> me too
<0> but then I switched it back on
<0> and now I'm hooked
<0> from time to time I switch it off, and try to pretend and I'm pro
<0> then I switch it on again
<2> Hehh. I'm from an Emacs world... Pretty doesn't do anything for me ;)
<0> when I saw the first shot of XP I was terrified.
<2> I've got that reaction with Vista and their transparent frames
<0> blue candy ugly titlebars, and the close button is bright red! wtf I thought they ruined windows
<2> I don't know that I'll ever get hard over that
<0> but thing is you get used to it
<2> I guess
<0> and as for gl*** frames, they look better than XP so..
<0> plus it gives PC users extra OSX bonus points
<2> Though when I went from Win 3 to Win95, I was in heaven
<0> for nice interface
<2> I'll give it a go for a while...
<2> But I suspect I'll be looking for the shutoff switch for that as well
<0> wawb, try the Royale theme from MEdia center
<0> wawb, it's too bright and purple for extended use, but has extra coolness factor
<0> you'll have to google for the theme download
<2> puled
<2> Do I need to turn on the theme service for this?
<0> well yes
<0> I suspect that service doesn't really take any resources if you don't use it (i.e. if you're in Cl***ic mode)
<0> so turning it off prolly doesn't help, except the extra tidyness level scores you get.
<0> in the last 3 minutes, I made 3 references to "cool extra bonus points/scores/factor", so I get extra repetition scores for that
<2> Um. Ok. I'm in Royale theme. What is special about it? It looks like XP theme, pretty much
<0> well yes
<2> With a soothing desktop wallpaper.
<0> wait, if you go in the appearance tab what does it say?
<2> Media Center Style
<0> aha
<0> well ok
<6> so i write some dialog and it sounds pretty good. then, i watch some really bad acting. then, i read my dialog and suddenly my dialog sounds like ***.
<6> i just thought i'd express my writers frustration. cause i know you all looove to hear it.
<2> suv4x4 - my problem with XP themes is the largeness of them. I'd rather have 10 extra pixels of client space than a great big curvy title-bar
<2> With pretty red X buttons
<0> wawb, same here
<0> wawb, but at 1280x1024, they appear the same size as old titlebar were
<0> so Microsoft has a point there
<2> Hehh, yeah, but I could still have 10 more client pixels at 1280x1024
<0> yea, but you'd lose 10 nanoseconds everytime when aiming to click the smaller titlebar
<2> And, actually, I'm dual monitor, and I _still_ want those pixels
<0> soon, we're talking real time you could spend with friends
<0> or something
<0> Microsoft wants you to be with your friends
<2> I mostly work with keyboard. All windows are maxed, and I am alt-tabbing my way through tasks
<0> I mostly work with a Wacom tablet
<2> And I'm mostly an Emacs user, so my mouse stays still most days.
<0> so we're totally opposite
<2> Ah, an artist?
<2> I'm on the dev side of things.
<0> Yep, I'm a great artist, I paint **** you can't imagine and I... oh well truth is I got it just because I have signs of carpal tunnel and using tablet helps. But Photoshopping with a tablet has benefits as well
<2> For example, look at my chess game: http://www.wawbco.net/pf/Chess.html
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