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<0> not exactly
<0> notice the flash spreads 100% width/height
<0> but not less than 700x500
<1> well, when I maximize the window on my 1920x1200 screen it's still the same size
<1> cool site tho
<0> Chuckster, the application is the same size but flash covers all
<0> I'm talking about the HTML side of things
<1> oh cool I see that now
<0> whether it stretched in flash is another matter
<1> hmm
<2> is flash scripting still tough
<0> flammingo, only As2 is tough. As3 is like being paid to watch TV and eat icecream
<2> I don't get what is As3?
<0> it's ActionScript 3
<2> so action script 3 is easy
<2> even for newbie
<3> simple question... how do I open an external webpage from within a flah movie
<3> I just want it to open in the default browser
<0> flammingo, no
<0> nothing is easy for a newbie, even going to the toilet
<4> has anyone else had problems with Flash 7 visitors crashing when trying to load a Flash 8-only .swf and for some reason trying to play it despite the file being flagged as 8, and containing AS 2-specific lines such as import...
<0> but it's easy for those from whom everything is easy
<0> but easier...
<0> get it? :)
<0> cuz I don't get it, what I said so far
<4> drawball has become a fierce south korea vs. japan war
<0> Jeff`, well AS2 won't be it since AS2 isn't compiled in the SWF..
<0> Jeff`, proper detection can avoid opening SWF8 in Flash 7 file in first place
<2> suv so it's not easy
<2> ?
<4> suv I fail to understand why a .swf published as 8 will try to play in 7
<0> flammingo, it's more clear and sorta more logical, let's say it that way
<4> shouldn't it indicate it cannot play and suggest the user download the 8 plugin?
<2> ok can you make up a brief example
<4> i thought this was the behavior for years
<0> Jeff`, flash is dumb, it'll try to play mov if you rename it "swf" as well
<0> no this was never automatic
<0> you should use the detection kit or similar technique
<4> i'll do preloading .swf in 6 i guess
<4> JS detection methods can bite it
<3> anyone? opening a website from within a movie?
<0> MiaZmA, getURL
<5> Jeff`: the express install they have now is great - i've had no issues with it
<0> Jeff`JS detection is the best way + flash detection + express install
<5> i love having the user install flash right from my website
<2> suv
<0> FearX, you pervert
<5> i pervert
<0> lol
<0> you admit eh :)
<5> i think in this day in age, everyone pervert
<2> can you tell me a example of ac3
<2> is it more common sense
<2> link this with this done
<2> ?
<4> 7 -> 8 is express?
<4> i have never heard of this
<4> does macromedia have info on js+flash+express method
<4> also, why should i involve JS
<5> !google flash express install
<6> http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/download/detection_kit/
<4> i don't care about the overhead of loading two .swf's if it means i can avoid JS
<5> it uses js
<0> Jeff`, you can do express on 6>8 and 7>8
<3> ty
<0> it uses JS but it doesn't need to
<4> what does it do really
<0> I think
<7> anyone want to help brainstorm with me? my juices are dry and i am wasting time
<4> does it redirect to a MM .html page? or directly prompt you to install a plugin, or what
<0> FatherHam, since when
<0> man I **** :(
<5> Jeff: it directly prompts you to update your plugin, in a flash movie
<0> Jeff`, it pops the little gray dialog from the settings and if you click yes it download flash 8 right there in the flash movie
<4> oh
<0> then reboots the browser
<0> and brings it back to the same site
<0> but with flash 8 installed
<7> i am trying to figure out the best collaborative system in order to accelerate the evolution of ideas... so for instance, if i make a document for a project plan, you can read it.... now from there, there are many possible interactions in order to progress the document... but im having trouble exploring what would work best
<5> FatherHam, you should make a document explaining this problem we'll all interact with it to progress it
<7> lol exactly. chicken and egg. ive dealth with the chicken and egg problem for YEARS
<0> ssso...
<0> you're out of ideas for your idea inducing machine
<0> how convenient
<5> just set up a project blog and people can post comments on it
<5> or a forum
<5> maybe a forum would be more organized
<5> how's skooli and cred coming along?
<7> i already made a forum. its too old school. i have too many ideas for projects now, which is why i must make this website, which is to establish an organization which will build skooli and the like. i cant do all of this alone
<8> http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3440114
<8> HILARIOUS
<9> anybody got some code to inflate a deflated byte array?
<7> i was thinking there could be vertical and horizontal progression. so i make a plan, it is my document, i can edit it, but you can also read it. you want to help, so you create a horizontal version of the document... meaning, it is your perspective on the same plane as mine. then you make your own plan, and the 2 documents compete side-by-side.
<7> then there is also the vertical progression, which is like a reply in a forum
<7> a parent-child relationship, where one thing spawns another
<5> i see what you're saying
<5> sure, do that
<9> suv4x4, finally, are you up to making a code to Inflate, Deflated bytes ?
<0> johnz, dunno why you think I'm doing anything cuz. I'm doing absolutely nothing
<9> hehe
<7> well, we all understand a vertical hierarchy... we reply to email, newsgroups, etc. someone says something, and we know how to bounce off another semi-related idea, and it forms a tree.... but what word describes the horizontal, brother relationship, where there is competition?
<9> i'm just wondering ;)
<7> its like, i start a topic, and you give your perspective on the same topic, and someone else the same, so we are horizontally moving around an object, all describing it in order to see the whole picture
<0> movie diagonally
<7> whereas vertical is just bouncing off into an endless tree of cause and effect like in usenet
<0> or in circles
<0> see if it helps
<5> oh, make a tetrahedron
<5> an idea tetrahedron
<9> i think it should have as many edges as the number of participating people.
<5> edges or sides? a tetrahedron is a 3d shape
<9> hum
<9> depends how we want it to bounce off.
<9> it a little shift in the rad, thats all.
<5> i think it should be like the tv room with the architect in the matrix, not like the tv wall in the brady bunch intro
<9> yeah
<0> ok
<0> what the **** are you talking about :)
<7> im confused. i mean, imagine a forum where you post, "The entire web should be flash. Html is dead." Normally, people reply to you, others reply to others in the thread, and next thing you know there is this long tree of people talking about how PDF ****s and Jim is an idiotic troll. that is the vertical, where it mutates...
<7> the horizontal would be, like a revision. like in wikipedia, except every person owns their version of the article.
<7> Then people can decide who to follow, and vote on which is best, and you can view a horizontal view to see
<9> yeah
<5> i understand what you're saying, it makes total sense
<7> im just stuck because ive never seen it built before, and i was getting lost in the diagrams and database, and now i forget what i was doing. so need to hear people say stuff so i can remember
<7> :P
<9> what about a moderated forum?
<9> where unwanted subjects are put into new thread with a respective thread title.
<7> this is for all objects.... text objects are just one type. you could also upload a picture, and it would allow the same operations on it. you could mutate the picture lineage in a vertical hierarchy like a family tree.... or you could describe the same thing as the picture in a horizontal competition.
<0> have I fallen into another dimension where "#flash" means scientists discussing how to implement string theory into web forums>?
<7> so if you wanted a perfect logo, you make a logo, and people could either be inspired by it and go vertical off in other things, or compete head to head horizontally
<4> heh heh
<4> how many horizonal views can you have before it is a pain to navigate between them and select one
<7> well it would list them, it doesnt necessarily mean they are horizontal in the browser... i mean, if you draw a diagram of a parent/child tree, like folders and files, now imagine a different version of a folder/file tree. so like let us say you and i are working on a project X
<7> i have my project x folder and files, and you can have yours... they are both horizontal, on the same plane, but they can be organized differently and contain diff info
<7> because one is your perspective
<7> one is mine. just like physical reality
<7> i see my perspective of reality, and you see yours
<7> they are the same, but diff
<7> so when you login, you have your internal view, and an external view. if someone finds my project x, they can look at the horizontal plane to see yours
<5> suv4x4: this is a regular monthly occurance when FatherHam crawls out from his thinktank to obtain thought sprinkles from his digital peers
<5> :D
<5> i'm the number one sprinkler :P
<0> FearX, he crawls back from his nest to kill humans for their liver, this is what he is
<0> but Mulder will get you, damn you!
<7> johnz i cant wait to see it either. ive been working on kauldron.com since 2000!
<7> ya FearX you are smart. i like your responses
<5> suv4x4: mulder was replaced
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