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<0> sorry, like i said, i haven't used matrices too much, but F1 doesn't get undefined when he traces
<0> lemme try it too, one sec
<1> F1: you see anything wrong the code? if not, may i send the .fla and maybe you can have a looksie?
<2> FearX What are your thoughts on personal or corporate/governmental privacy?
<0> if i understand the question, then this... personal privacy? depends on the circumstances, but i think everyone is entitled to their privacy ... governmental privacy, a government should have no privacy, they work for us and we should have access to see everything they do
<1> amen
<2> What about a business
<0> business is different
<0> i think it's a businesses right to privacy, like i wouldn't want my competitors finding out about my businesses financial status, or new projects i'm developing, or anything really
<2> I'm guessing the reason for wanting privacy is because it gives the other person or business an unfair advantage over you, since they know something about you and you don't know it about them.
<2> But what if no privacy was forced for everyone? Would it still matter?
<3> Can someone explain this expession: Math.random() < 0.5 ? -1 : 1;
<4> Is it possible to play imagevuex offline?
<1> bah,, i'm about to give up..
<2> Manalishi if a random number is smaller than 0.5 then -1 otherwise 1
<5> Evening.
<0> FatherHam, it would still give unfair advantages to the businesses with the means/manpower to get things done faster than the business who came up with the idea ... i guess there would have to be stronger patents
<1> patents are the devil
<3> FatherHam - if a random number is smaller than .5, then make it equal to -1, if not, then make it equal to 1. right?
<0> when furbies came out, there was a knockoff called kobe ... now, what if i was developing kobe before furby was even an idea, and then some huge company sees my idea and develops the furby ... technically the furby would be the knockoff, but since they had the means to get theirs out first, kobe is the knockoff and i lose all that potential revenue
<2> Manalishi ya
<3> thanks
<0> Manalishi: you have the word "anal" in your nick :D
<3> HAHA
<3> FearX- that's my claim to fame.
<0> no doubt :P
<1> i'm giving up, nighty night, pm me if anyones finds an solution
<2> FearX Ya. But everyone would know you invented it. At least you'd get fame
<0> FatherHam, sure but if it doesn't sell, all that time developing the thing is wasted... what happens when you do that for EVERY thing you invent? some larger company steals the idea, changes it enough to get around the patent, and makes millions... you'd go broke
<2> Ya it's difficult to compete in some things without patents and privacy.
<2> But
<2> I mean, once yours comes out, it is the original
<2> Not some cheap knockoff
<0> but if every kid has a furby, who the hell wants a kobe
<0> i had transformers, i didn't really like go-bots
<0> transformers are still around today, go-bots, only kids from the eighties know what they are
<2> It's like if Apple announced some new product they were developing and would release in about a year. Then some unknown asian company downloads their plans, pumps it out 6months earlier. I bet when Apple released theirs, it'd still make a lot of money, plus would get a lot of free advertising since someone ripped them off and people knew it
<2> hmm I'm not sure. I mean, I've never really seen a real life example of something doing something without patents or privacy
<2> It's just not done
<0> but that's because apple is a huge name, with lots of money
<0> turn it around
<0> what if unknown asian company develops this crazy product and apple gets a hold of the technology
<0> even if the first company releases it first, you know people are waiting for the apple product
<0> sure they might make SOME money, but with privacy, they can just hit the market with it, and apple would be a year or more behind
<0> at that point apple might not even decide to go through with it
<0> who knows
<2> Hmm ya, it might require something a little different than capitalism for no patents/privacy, because when one person has a ton of capital, the physics of it means the weak lil guy can't hurt him with a punch unless we use fake restrictions to tie up the big guy
<0> what brought this on anyways?
<2> Always trying to evolve my ideology. I am trying to hack the societal system, and so I must not only understand it completely, but have other versions ready for when people are ready to upgrade.
<2> Was thinking whether or not a government currency system should allow for privacy of transactions, or require all records to be public
<0> anything a government spends taxpayers money on should be public information
<2> Ya, that seems definitely true.
<0> that's the whole problem with the canadian government, crooked bastards spent money on **** they shouldn't have, tried to hide it, and got caught
<2> Yuck. That's the whole role of the government. They should pretend they are the public, like how a body is all the cells together, a government should behave like all the people together, acting on it's behalf. Obviously everything it does then should be in the body's favor, and should be known by all
<0> i also have a problem with government salaries... i think people with government positions make way too much, and since they work for us, the public should be able to regulate their salaries, but instead they make up their own salaries and we have to pay for it, like it or not
<0> well, depending on the position though, i'm mainly talking higher ups
<2> How would people decide how much they are paid?
<0> i dunno, we almost need a second government to govern the government
<2> ol
<2> lol
<6> get out of beeeed, and pull yourself up a chair...
<2> That's the tricky part. That's why if somehow, a decentralized governmental system could be invented, it would be a no-brainer upgrade. Because right now, there is too much of a chicken-egg problem. Who gods the gods? etc.
<2> Good luck with that though
<0> well, it comes back to power corrupts
<0> give anyone enough power, and they'll abuse it
<0> the only way to win, is to be the one in power
<6> some only need a little
<2> Ya, so the system has to be something so that is is impossible for people, even with the worst intentions, to do harm. Just like, even if you really want to defy gravity, you can't. Even good people, when given power, eventually seem to use it poorly.
<2> That's what USA tried to do with the checks and balances
<2> It sorta works, but not really
<0> see, i'm voting for harper because he's said some good things, and i don't want liberals in power anymore, but i'm torn because i know as soon as he's in power, he's going to do the exact opposite of what he said and **** us all over again lol
<2> That's what they do
<0> i wish government was like religion, where you could form your own party and live by those laws, paying those taxes, etc etc..
<0> but then there'd be too many offshoots causing the whole thing to crumble
<2> It used to be, when we had a tribal planet. But the thing is, once they get together, they form bigger bodies, and those bigger ones get together, and soon they have too much power for any smaller groups to have any say
<2> They are afraid if they allow small ones, they'll get together and overthrow them
<2> So it'd have to be a united tribes of earth
<0> why isn't there a flat percentage for income tax?
<0> why, if i work harder and make more money, do i have to pay a higher percentage?
<6> and in some cases, earn less that what you should? heh
<6> bad raise
<2> Because, if you make $10 a year, that % is worth a lot more to you than if you make $10,000,000
<6> to who?
<6> :P
<0> if you make $10 a year, you ain't got **** anyways
<6> not the guy makin $10,000,000
<2> Survival. When you don't make much, every calorie is important for you to stay alive. When you're a fat pig, you can give up a few cakes without dying
<6> just cuz ya make more money, why should you have to pay more taxes? 'cuse me for doin something right - doesnt make sense for an individual, but for the good of all - makes a microscopic bit of sense
<2> The government takes what it can get away with. It can't get away with taking a lot from poor citizens, or they will die out
<0> lets say it's 25%, the dude who made $10 pays $2.50, still left with $7.50, enough for his annual mcdonalds ... where the guy who made $10,000,000 pays $2.5 million, i'd sure as hell miss $2.5M even though i made another $7.5M
<2> That's nuts man
<6> still dont see why i should have to pay more so more people can sit on their *** and collect welfare **** or such - or have minorities come to my country, use my taxes to educate themselves, then not do any service here as they should, and just go back to their country - that **** pisses me right off and i believe i should have a say as to where my taxes go at least
<0> yeah, that's bull**** too, my wife makes less than people on welfare
<0> and she works
<2> I think you shouldn't be taxed at all
<0> (when she's not busy poppin out kids)
<6> i'm all for regulated taxes - flat rate - if you're upset buddy makes more - get off your *** and do something with your own life
<0> i'd love to not be taxed, but where does the gov't get it's money then?
<6> well, if gov wouldnt lose billions at a time, it wouldnt hurt either
<6> :|
<6> heh
<2> I think the government should be more like a business... in that, the people choose if they want to invest money into it, and if so, into what projects. So if I am the government, and I have a couple ideas of things I want to do for the country, and no one agrees, they don't get done. But if they like one, they can volunteer money into it, and we do it
<0> that's true too
<6> lose as in 'misplaced'
<0> yeah
<0> i read ya
<6> ya, like i said - i would like to have a say AT LEAST in where my taxes get devoted to, with a 'receipt' of some sort
<2> But there is one problem in giving people a say
<6> other areas get ignored
<6> yup
<2> The people are morons.
<6> everyone is a moron
<6> you get good at one thing
<6> ... maybe a couple
<0> i'm jack of all trades, master of none :D
<6> throw you into something you arent familiar with - you're a moron too
<6> to the person that knows that
<6> hehe
<0> i'm master of trades, jack of **** :D
<6> heh
<6> <- bong master
<6> =)))
<0> <- jedi master
<0> </geek>
<6> red-i master?
<6> heh
<7> wasted master
<6> cmon - someone say it....
<6> DRUNKEN MASTER
<6> heheh
<0> haha
<7> that too
<2> But, most of what people vote on, are things that they are sold by a few wolves. There are 10-20% of leaders, and they go around competing to get the most sheep. So why ask the sheep what to do, when all they do is follow some wolf anyways. Might as well skip the layers, and let the wolves control
<7> TOO DRUNOE M***a
<7> LMAO
<6> i prevoted tonight
<6> :)
<0> i meant to, forgot
<6> cant bitch if you dont vote
<2> Yes you can
<6> nah
<2> Voting is a joke
<6> yer words are useless if you yourself dont even attempt to make a change
<2> Yes, but voting doesn't change anything
<6> not voting changes?
<0> voting doesn't matter because there is no perfect government - they're all going to **** you over, so bend over and smile, whether you voted or not
<6> and least you can have a choice of who you may get ****ed by - and in what way
<6> but if you're too ignorant to even cast your vote, you sure as **** better not be complaining about it
<6> lol
<0> well, you have another choice as well
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