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<0> in our society
<0> and paranoia
<1> people react to fear
<0> i think it holds no positive spin in the long run
<0> SHiZNiT true... doesn't mean we have to live by it
<1> but its everywhere
<1> you do live by it - knowingly or not
<1> heh
<0> SHiZNiT a society binded to fear is a society standing still
<1> nah
<0> yes
<0> u see it today
<1> fear of extinction can make you work towards avoiding such
<0> in modern day america
<1> =)
<0> ya.. right



<0> as we pollute our air
<0> with our cars
<0> and our lawn mowers
<0> and our oil refineries
<1> so you are in fear
<0> sorry.. taht's bsd
<0> er bs
<1> of the above
<1> :)
<0> if we were all so conscience to avoid extinction
<2> lawnmowers mommy! LAWNMOWERS!
<0> why are we killing ourselves DAILY
<0> u tell me that
<1> because we weight it against being lazy and saving time
<0> i don't buy that ..
<0> i don't want to be extinct... nor do u
<1> people want to get places quicker - so there's vehicles - and although they have a side effect.... the positive effect outweights (although it shouldnt) the rationalization that it does bad - however, it wont do bad 'during my lifetime' and by the time it is an issue 'someone will solve it' seems to be the mentality
<2> because we're selfish
<0> no
<0> well
<0> yes
<0> but
<0> what we seem to forget
<0> is all the technology and understanding we need in our existance
<0> already exists
<1> plenty of alternatives that help the environment are infact in place and available - problem is a) price b) availability c) social acceptance
<2> technology is conveinience
<1> yup
<0> in the end .. it's ALWAYS about altering natural elements
<0> all we need .. exists
<2> conveinience costs money nickfury
<1> all we need is already in motion ... but to just as example 'cut the use of oil' ... ok, now what do you do with the 4billion people out of work?
<0> SHiZNiT
<1> let them break into your house and steal your stuff?
<0> so ****ing what
<0> the world NEEDS to change
<1> sure
<0> there will be MORE jobs
<1> but its not something that happens over night
<0> oil isn't the ANSWER
<1> gunna take 50 years
<1> any other thought is silly
<1> :)
<0> all thes things are possible
<0> time travel has to be possible.
<3> ok guys
<3> i'm off and out
<1> supreman just fly backwards a few times
<0> changing our structure
<0> is possible
<3> bye
<0> later vbrother
<0> talk to you soon
<1> o/
<3> ok bye
<0> SHiZNiT imagine time travel as all of time, layered on top of each other.. not as a linear line
<2> that's a linear idea, just upwards
<0> travelling from era to era, would be as simple as adjusting the dimension
<0> Smurf but .. in a dimensional way
<0> not in a 2d way



<2> no
<0> or ... swapping the Depth :)
<4> oh god
<0> well
<4> i read time travel a few hours ago
<4> gimme a break!
<0> why is that so out of bounds?
<4> :P
<1> GM currently has 1.5 million vehicles on U.S. roads capable of using a blend of gasoline that contains up to 85% ethanol (referred to as E85), which is mostly derived from corn. (Its principal U.S. competitor, Ford, also has a significant number of FFVs on the road.) E85 vehicles can run on either conventional gas or E85 without any additional modifications, aftermarket conversions, or cumbersome switches for vehicle users. The cars autom
<1> as example
<1> ... things are changing
<1> they just take time
<0> SHiZNiT
<0> it's not just that though
<1> ya
<0> for example.
<1> well i can make a list of 1000 things
<0> alot of HUGE companies
<1> so what?
<0> are now buying Wind power
<2> i'd use E85 if it wasn't expensive and if i didn't have to drive 20 extra miles there and back just to get the fuel
<0> which is .. something we could have been doing
<0> for .. 20 years
<1> smurf - exactly... price and availability
<0> especially in canada
<0> we have .. huge big areas
<0> flat.
<1> untill EVERYONE is doing it - its a premium to those who care
<0> lots of wind
<1> and they are the LAST people - that should be taxed more for such
<2> nickfury because the turbines have gotten to a level of efficency that offsets their price
<0> Smurf well fine .. but they could have been producing this tech a while ago
<0> if people GAVE a dame
<2> the people that did were developing the technology :/
<5> i believe sometimes in karma maby it
<1> maybe someone so driven about change shouldnt be a flash developer - but a scientist or chemist ... and do something about it .... anyone can sit in their chair and bitch about things
<6> SHiZNiT
<0> SHiZNiT
<5> maby god is only a karma
<6> msg me
<0> i do every day
<0> i speak of it .. to friends, people i meet.. discussions all over hte place
<0> SHiZNiT i also practice what i preach tooo
<1> ya sure
<1> but what do you DO about it?
<0> i don't pollute
<0> i use .. little energy
<0> i do MY part
<1> you have a car?
<0> nope
<2> what's the PSU in that thing rated at...
<0> got rid of it
<5> i have a car
<0> use only public transit.
<5> and a motorbike
<0> and my bike
<0> i make a conscience effort
<1> fok that for me
<0> to minmize my energy usages
<5> i give a **** if it'S poluting
<0> and.. NO ONE ELSe cares around me
<1> i aint taking public transit across the city for a meeting i have in 30 minutes
<0> as you can see.
<0> it's very frustratinh
<5> i will drive !
<5> ;)
<1> i gotta drive 150km/h to get there in time
<1> :P
<6> SHiZNiT msg me
<0> i moved to the city..
<0> so i could do this
<2> nickfury maybe you should pursue a career where you could generate some kind of change?


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