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<0> http://www.nattstad.se/pics2/members/archive/2005112/2005011214403652836_big.jpg
<0> blonde with Saddam!!!
<1> why don't I just make a used car selling site and neglect color
<1> that is such a bad photoshop it's amazing
<0> yes it is
<2> whats MMO mean anyways?
<1> m***ive-multiplayer online
<2> ohhh
<2> ty
<1> everquest, world of warcraft, diablo, anarchy online, that sort of thing
<3> mmo destroy ppls lives
<3> never liked it
<2> yah
<3> played wow to level 23, then quit because i couldnt think of anythiing usefull about it
<1> MMO doesn't destroy any more than heroin does ;). It's the user...



<2> i never could get into it... short attention span and too much work
<2> heh... guns dont kill people do?
<1> well that's because there IS nothing useful about it
<2> entertainment
<3> yeah thats what i was trying to say. :)
<3> well MMO is such addicting to the most ppls it becomes harmfull
<1> there's barely anything useful about music (same **** different shovel) or movies (ditto) but you probably watch them time to time
<3> yeah well, i guess you only play wow "time to time"? :P
<1> the addicting portion of the game is a bit of irony.. it has a reputation for making you anti-social because you only want to play the game but inside the game, there's more people than you typically come into contact with in a week, all around you
<1> it's anything but anti-social.. it's super-social if anything
<0> well
<0> in that sense it's as social as IRC
<1> indeed
<0> but I don't consider such encounters as 'social'
<3> sure, I still don't consider that social really. It's a low profile type of human interaction not being social, but thats only my opinion i know many others think otherwise.
<1> a good portion of my interest in WoW is my local friends -all- play, aside 2 of the lot
<3> i know wow addicts, they are anything but social IRL nowdays :)
<1> it makes it a lot of fun to jump on our private vent server and throw down in-game
<1> I wouldn't say computer communication is an adequate parallel to IRL social contexts but given many people have been around it for so many years, we've adapted to make it viable when necessary
<1> basicly, I don't feel any more 'social' when we're all at the bar or club than when we're all in-game on vent playing
<1> it's just different people, different conversation, different activities
<0> can't say I agree with you there :)
<4> !find rules
<3> I've been at that stage, I almost never met ppls IRL for like three years being addicted to counter-strike. After all that time I can't really say i really got to know many ppls like i get to know ppls IRL when interacting with them.
<0> I think that there are many varieties of being social, but real life is always bigger than virtual reality
<1> it's just the way my mind expands the game I'm in.. I don't typically see an in-game avatar and think "oh look it's polygons!", I think "Hi Tara!"
<1> ziper: I started a LAN center based around Counter-Strike and ended up meeting nearly all the heavyweight (CAL-p) players IRL as we hosted tournaments
<5> few questions guys
<5> is there functions to just get the month number
<5> the day number
<0> I've been to the CPL about 15 times
<0> does that make me neat?
<0> ;)
<3> :)
<5> without parsing through a getDate() which changes with the amount of digitals in a day/moth
<5> because like parsing this month thing is pissing me off
<1> that which can be viewed as antisocial can also be viewed as a doorway to other types of socializing that otherwise wouldn't happen
<1> *shrug*
<3> ominous: Meeting them is one thing interacting and getting to know them IRL is another thing. You will never get to know anyone as good in a virtual reality as you do in real life.
<0> oh and I've got Angel Munoz' phone number
<0> so wet your pants baby
<0> ;)
<1> ziper: knowing a persons mindset and the way they act is different, but ultimately you get to know people by how they think, which can be easily derrived from voice chat
<3> Sorry.. :)
<1> I wouldn't agree that you can't get used to a person like that
<3> I own a counter-strike manager game beat that.
<3> :)
<0> ziper sure
<3> aww.
<0> I started one of the biggest CS communities in the world
<0> and made a living out of it
<3> cool
<3> yeah i make a living also
<1> which community would that be?
<0> www.Gamers.nu
<0> the largest community with paying members
<0> a lot bigger than gotfrag, ESEA and alike
<3> yeah thats cool i started a community like that long time ago also but i gave up on it quickly
<0> you haven't?
<0> gamers.nu has been english in the past too



<3> I have know of gamers.nu since it started, but i think it's mostly for swedes :)
<0> yes it is
<1> why would anyone in the USA care if it's not english? ;)
<0> ominous > because it was in english
<1> 'was' dun count
<0> we brought a ****load of interviews, video, audio and other coverage
<0> hehe well
<0> fact is that most people who play hardcore CS know it
<1> yeah but everyone knows the most well known site was CS-nation
<1> basicly because gooseman endorsed it.
<1> Cliffe also
<0> I've met cliffe
<0> he's a nice guy
<1> so then you know what CS-nation is ><
<3> I started www.eSportManager.com (made it while learning flash thought, a _lot_ of code needs to be redone) but i don't update it anymore so it's kinda falling apart currently even if i'll take up the work again when i get time
<1> run by RIZZUH
<0> of course I do
<1> cliffe likes to hide.. that mofo basicly posted news and that's it hehe
<0> he's like that irl too
<0> but actually very generous
<1> I liked the minimalism
<3> robinhewd: You're still working on gamers.nu?
<0> no I quit about four months ago
<0> why
<3> just wondering
<2> u guys ever get a "plug-in cancelled" error message?
<0> I usually go under alias "arbee"
<1> I'm always 'deagle'.. I never use anything but it anymore ><
<3> Oh, ok. Then i know who you are.
<0> http://www.gamers.nu/_img/eshots/3001.jpg
<0> that's me next to Moto
<0> to the right
<0> umm three years ago
<0> http://www.gamers.nu/_img/eshots/2976.jpg
<0> that's cliffe to the right
<1> I just love that the game can be picked up and enjoyed by anyone from the first time you play, but depthy enough to challenge even the best wrist flicking
<0> BF2 is really cool, yes
<2> u guys ever like AA?
<1> just as cinematic as BF1942
<0> AA?
<1> I tried AA back when it began but everyone was so far ahead of me I'd get nailed by the best weapons all the time.. ended up going all BF42
<1> America's Army
<3> BF2 is okay, but when you play on public servers it's really random :)
<0> never tried it
<0> ziper it's ok on the official servers
<0> a bit more serious players
<2> AA is free robinhewd
<3> yeah well, i think you just spawn and then a aircraft kills you instantly or a tank or something :)
<1> yeah you can't expect stability in a PUG game of any sort ;), it's always highly random.. there's a small amount of organization with voice comm and squads though
<1> what they need to do in that game is add more weapons and vehicles, as well as the ability to unlock better vehicles and better cl***es
<1> I want to be a ninja :<
<1> whole industry is in a dive now though.. consumers are waitin for all the mega-scale games to hit and aren't buying much other than the best so development cycles are like 2-4 years now
<1> guh
<7> Hi
<8> hi allO_o
<1> omg two questions at once
<9> hoy
<1> G'LAWD 3
<8> where to get a simple cgi to store varialbes from flash into a txt !? , anyone !?
<9> anyone know how to delay a frame using actionscript?
<1> momille: that has nothing at all to do with #flash
<7> I'm thinking about some element of my web page that I need to do and I haven't got clue for about two weeks, then I visited the macromedia page ;)
<8> hm why? i wanna store variables in a txt file
<1> Olme: You can't delay a frame, you can re-loop a frame though
<9> oh, ok. thanks
<1> momille: It's not a Flash question, flash cannot write text files, you need something like PHP/etc
<8> i know but almost everyone in here should know how to setup it, because its a common thing
<1> momille: #php is what you want
<8> i want #flash :P
<1> Olme: If you have a 30fps document and you want to delay it 1 second, you can replay the same frame 30 times and it will delay 1 second.
<1> momille: I want ice cream
<8> i want more patrol for lower prices!


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