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<0> yeah, I don't have enough stuff to add to them yet
<1> ZaneGun: i like iDog
<1> hehe
<2> but i do like that idea...cool stuff
<3> maybe it you were less interested in hitcounters and money you could do something really nice
<3> i think you should study flash more
<0> lol
<0> thanks for the tips pujol
<2> also, you shouldn't have to click the button twice to load the content
<3> SupaShaD, i agree with you
<0> what do you mean?
<2> well when you zoom in on products for instance
<3> right
<2> you have to click products, then click it again to have it actually open up
<3> ZaneGun08, you should shut down that site until you learn more flash
<0> Pujol, I would like to see an example of your flash work



<3> ZaneGun08, let me put it this way
<3> chances are you see it every day
<3> my **** is very high profile
<4> hiii
<1> Pujol, gooogle?
<0> did you realize once you zoom in, you can click scroll from sector to sector?
<0> I don't think anyone realizes that
<3> no
<0> I gotta cut down on load time by alot though
<3> it ****s, seriously. it's impossible to figure out what's going on
<0> but, I'm new to flash, so i don't really know how to break up my movie clips, and tell them to load certain times
<2> pujol, again stop with the attitude
<5> im studying human computer interaction and interface design
<0> lol
<2> you're right to say it's not intuitive, but do it in a constructive manner
<5> pujol is 100 percent correct
<5> your interface puts too much cognitive strain on users
<0> what do you mean it isn't intuative?
<0> Like it is hard to navigate?
<3> SupaShaD, why does everythign i say elicit such virulence from you
<2> means it's too difficult to find your menu, too difficult to locate the actual products
<2> because everything you say is offensive in some manner
<5> users are not given feedback about what they do on the site
<3> SupaShaD, it's like you're saying the site ****s but you're watering it down
<3> i have to wonder what you think you are accomplishing
<2> im telling him what needs to be fixed, there's a difference
<1> Pujol, you're flatout putting him down
<3> but the fact is
<3> you think is ****s too
<2> instead of being a pompus ****head, im suggesting ways to improve the site
<0> I don't mind him
<3> SupaShaD, i'm suggesting things too
<3> i told him to shut it down
<2> you're being an ***hole
<2> and i've already warned you about that
<0> I just read over what he writes
<0> stop worrying about him
<2> you're testing my nerves as we speak
<5> pujol is the best
<3> SupaShaD,
<0> he probably gets off to annoying people
<3> i can't seem to avoid pissing you off
<0> but thanks for the tips
<1> Pujol, that's not a positive suggestion, that's an insult
<3> i think you will eventually kick me out
<3> FearX, but it's true!
<3> deny it
<2> pujol, you keep talking like you are, and yes, you will get kicked out
<0> I always forget how much people **** with with computers, so I didn't design my site very well
<3> SupaShaD, you tell me not to do this or that, i obey yet you still get mad
<1> you said it's impossible to figure out what's going on - i had no problem
<3> what do you want?
<1> i agree it has some issues, but it doesn't need to be taken down
<1> hell, there's far worse on the internet
<2> i said for you to drop your attitude, you have yet to do that.
<3> it's a disgrace to flash
<3> ok
<3> i will SupaShaD
<0> but my audience is kids, and most of them can figure it out is what I think
<3> i will keep it in msg
<3> ZaneGun08,



<3> do you mind if i msg you
<3> wait
<0> yeah go ahead
<0> we can have a little flame war
<0> you didn't have to kick him, what if he really needs flash help sometime
<5> he's a troll
<0> you have to realize, that there is always people that have to ruin something good
<2> well he's l337
<2> im pretty sure he can figure it out
<5> zanegun, your site seriously is not good
<2> tsunade, learn from example.
<5> do you know much about interface design?
<1> tsunade, don't start
<2> don't talk **** about people's sites
<5> wtf
<2> we're here to help
<0> no, i know nothing about interface design
<5> im trying to help him
<5> ...okay
<2> not deconstruct
<5> wtf
<2> you're not being constructful, you're insulting users
<0> but i think if you spend time to look at it, you can figure it out pretty fast
<5> he wont get far if he keeps making terrible things like that
<2> zanegun, there's just too much going on
<5> im trying to help him out
<1> tsunade, his interface is somewhat original, it's not just a list of links
<2> you have too much text, and not enough emphasis on hot spots
<5> zanegun08, there are huge flaws in your design
<1> well, maybe not original, but creative
<0> lol, wanna see my other site? www.kgkmultimedia.com it is for a friend
<0> you'll probably think it is even worse
<5> original but poor design
<5> there's no use in something like that
<0> well, think of my audience
<0> I'm selling shirts
<0> to kids
<0> and most kids know a little about computers
<2> zanegun, you need to emphasize the areas of the map that have content on them in some way
<0> so they can figure the site out pretty much
<5> why are you selling shirts to kids...
<1> tsunade, who cares? he can do whatever he wants, we can suggest he do things differently, but there's no need to say "it ****s, it's poor, it's not useful, you won't get far making terrible things like that" that's all negative
<2> it's not a matter of figuring it out, it's a matter of takign 5 minutes to figure it out versus 10 seconds
<5> isn't it the parents that are doing the actual buying?
<0> when you rollover something, for instance, the products, it says products in the upper right
<6> can flying shrimp kill?
<5> do you even know how children navigate a web site?
<5> go read some literature on it...
<0> as in kids, i mean like 14-20
<1> mjau: they're lethal
<6> lethal crustacean
<0> I have always wanted to have a shirt company, I'm designing my shirts, and printing them myself, and selling them for 10 dollars
<0> because I am tired of paying 20 dollars for shirts
<2> i like that deep sea one
<2> that's pretty slick
<0> and I think that other people are too
<0> thank you
<0> tsunade, the parents are giving the kids money to go shopping
<7> w3c just sent me a cease and desist email after seein my flash
<1> gt3: url?
<2> lol no **** gt3?
<2> url?
<2> :D
<0> and when they see they can get 2 of my shirts, for the price of 1 name brand, I think i have a chance they will get mine
<2> ZaneGun08, but if they can't find your shirts, how are they gonna purchase them :]P
<0> lol, true
<1> zanegun: do you have an ordering method in place?
<2> you need to emphasize the areas of interest on that
<1> i didn't check
<0> acctually the local skateshops are selling them for me
<0> yeah, but it is by email
<0> I don't know how to do the crazy e-commerce stuff
<1> you should at least hookup a paypal account or something
<1> doesn't have to be crazy


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