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<0> morde-wrk don't say that. if the designers at my office start to believe that, i'll have to put everything together in flash for them, so shhh
<0> one fellow is "really keen to learn flash programming", and he's not stupid, buuuuut... he's still wrestling with the idea of calling a function
<0> "not programmically inclined" i call him :P
<1> heh
<0> put any illustration tool or 3d app in front of him and he'll work out the interface and create works of wonder.. so its not 'intellect' so much as being honest about what he cares to learn
<0> you know?
<1> well
<1> drawing doesn't really require intellect
<0> using 3dsmax does
<1> no just takes some time to learn it
<0> no it actually requires some intellect.
<1> ok
<0> otherwise you're saying there is no intellect just "learning ability".
<1> coding requires intellect
<0> no you just need to take time to learn it
<0> :P
<1> no
<0> whats your differentiater?
<0> what describes the difference between an interface to achieve what you want through a set of actions or commands as written code versus, say max's or maya's UI?
<1> the difference is elusive
<1> it's like the difference between art cl*** and math cl***
<0> i mean i know what you're getting at, but effectivwely using a 3d tool requires a fair understanding of spacial cues and evaluating the effects of something like, applying a slice on a mesh is not all math
<0> but also an intuition about behaviour. i think its simply two sides of the same coin
<1> I agree that working with an advanced 3d renderer requires some brainpower
<0> so does painting
<1> well.. no.
<1> well.. yes.
<1> not the same kind of brainpower
<1> painting utilizes your left side of the brain, programming the right side.
<0> thats not heavily proven, both artistic and academic skills require lateral and sequential thought
<0> theres a tendency to depend on one side more
<1> it is largely true. I know a guy who is basically a moron but can draw awesomely.
<0> and i thought right side was 'artistic'
<0> well i'd usually apply moronic to social aptitude. I guess its a matter of knowing what psychiatrics considers the correct use of semantics
<0> can't say im that well versed
<1> I use moron to reflect a low intelligence.
<0> psychiatry has rejected the term
<1> I haven't
<0> which shows a refinement in understanding
<0> which i think is my point. and probably reflexive for all of us, heavy handed use of polairising terms
<0> polarising
<0> anyway
<0> He aint stupid
<0> it's a combination of interest and flair. and i dont think he has either for coding, so best he uses button type symbols :)
<1> bottom line is. Artistic ability does not mean you have better potential of doing well in traditional intelectually challenging areas such as math and coding.
<0> intelligent, first entry: a. The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge. thats what i meant by him being intelligent.
<0> not: c. Superior powers of mind.
<1> I disagree very much with that definition
<0> the application is the intelligence.
<0> it leads to: b. The faculty of thought and reason.
<0> and if you look at the definition of intellect: b. The ability to think abstractly or profoundly.
<1> we are gtting closer
<0> abstract thought has been considered a power of the creative side of the mind
<0> I just think its a bit more complex than, smart/dumb, good/bad, lateral/logical etc
<0> i mean the minds a pretty wet and messy computer :)
<1> I agree that the various fields are somewhat interconnected
<2> hhowdy
<3> Has throwdown been in?
<2> yeh im throwdown
<2> just changed my name
<2> hows it going
<1> oh rly?
<1> where are you from shotpoint?
<2> adelaide
<1> ok
<3> shotpoint Can you dcc?
<2> yeha showed you
<2> dont even know what it means
<2> so probably not
<3> morde-wrk one problem down - one to go :)
<1> good 4 you
<2> im gonna try and try and make the loading bar now
<3> shotpoint can you read your pm?
<3> http://pastebin.sekati.com/?id=Anonymous@c8f51-ddab2943-t - I am trying to load a xml response from php into flash
<3> but it displays lines 56 and 57 and doesn't seem to enter the loop
<3> Can anyone help me please?
<3> morde-wrk do you know about loadvars.sendAndLoad?
<1> not so much no
<3> ok
<4> !find rules
<5> !find my lost keys
<4> morning :)
<5> :()
<5> :)
<4> having trouble with an actionscript
<6> mj
<6> where's mjau mjau :D
<4> http://pastebin.sekati.com/?id=Anonymous@f3f49-975f39b2-t
<3> enz0 have you used loadvars.sendAndLoad
<4> trying to make the dots spiral around, but having trouble with the syntax
<6> nop :o
<3> np
<7> anyone need a graphic designer? msg me
<3> sketchr how is your actionscripting?
<7> i dont do web developing
<3> ok
<7> just graphic design
<5> Deka still here. heh
<3> yes
<3> sorted 1 problem
<3> 1 left :D
<5> :)
<5> What now?
<3> trying to get a xml response from php into flash
<3> any ideas
<5> That bits easy no? I thought it was just the sending bit that you had problems with
<3> the sending is sorted
<3> now i got to sort out getting data back
<5> personally I use this for XML: http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/000070.html
<3> .me looks
<5> heh
<3> but thats for a external file
<3> hey spasmFace :)
<3> what if the xml data is coming from a php script
<5> same difference.
<3> would it work with loadvars.sendAndLoad
<5> yep, it inherits from XML.
<3> i think my problem may be getting flash to wait for the php script to finish before checking for the returning data
<8> Hi, I want to make an set of buttons on the fly when my swf plays, but how do I place images on the up/down/over/hit frames?
<9> hey DekaPatro howsit?
<9> are you using the onData or onLoad .. or whatever method it is
<5> DekaPatro: Buffer the PHP
<3> http://pastebin.sekati.com/?id=Anonymous@c8f51-ddab2943-t - I am trying to load a xml response from php into flash
<5> So Flash doesn't get it until it's finished.
<3> how
<3> i'm new to php
<9> show us your php
<5> !google PHP Output Buffering by Michael Bailey
<10> http://codewalkers.com/tutorials/44/1.html
<3> spasmFace http://pastebin.sekati.com/?id=Anonymous@eed70-ddab2943-t
<3> i've already got that in - i use it to output stuff to a text file to help with debugging
<9> dude deka!
<9> dont echo everything
<9> add it all to a string
<9> and then echo the string
<3> there's to much data to rely on strings
<9> like you built the login details xml in flash
<3> alot of the stuff is going to be xml formatted
<9> how many lines?
<9> DekaPatro YES i know!
<3> or rather the php will be modularised
<9> you do realise when you are echoing its a line of text ie a string
<3> yeah
<9> so instead of echoing, add it to a variable, and then echo it at the end
<3> but then i'll have lots of variables
<9> NO you dont
<9> you have one
<3> won't it require parsing at the flash end
<9> okay, see how your echoing, straight to the page, (so therefore php is printing out text WHILE its loading) instead make one variable, which acts like a container, and you put everything in there, then echo it at the end so it getsdisplayed all in one big hit
<9> instead of drip feeding it
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