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<0> oh joy, another flash release that won't support Linux!
<1> frb-work, Macromedia is working on a 8.5 linux version.
<1> frb-work, they skipped 8 since 8.5 is out so soon after that
<0> will it support alpha blending?
<1> they in fact have larger team than ever for the Linux version
<1> frb-work, alpha blending against the page?
<0> yes, flash7 on linux doesn't support transparency or alpha blending
<1> frb-work, what do you mean "or".. what is the difference? anyway. One reason could be that the browser have to support that :) another reason was that flash 7 was a rushed release and they know it
<1> not only on linux, but on all os
<0> gifs are transparent, pngs are alpha
<1> ok
<0> opacity works in firefox on linux anyway, as does png alpha, so teh technology is there
<2> http://www.gkmotu.com/little_fellas.html qucik work in progress shot
<0> anyway, what do I use to make a scrollable list of items?
<3> nice
<1> frb-work, the technology to display a static image and a binary plugin are totally different
<0> I'm really a programmer, but I need to solve my media problem
<4> hey question... when you credit a photo to somone, do you use a copyright symbol?
<3> you don't have to
<3> you can just write something under it, or just use the same copyright for the rest of the site if it is your picture
<1> JonM`, when you "credit" it..?
<4> like a little text in the left hand corner of the photo
<0> does flash have xmldoc.getElementByTagName() ?
<1> frb-work, no
<1> frb-work, it has XMLNode.nodeName
<1> but that's not the same exactly
<1> or at all :P
<0> so I have to go through the children myself
<1> yup
<0> does it have (for var foo in bar) ?
<1> no
<1> this is E4X
<1> and this, and the other similar tools are part of 8.5
<0> well, js based on the same ecma has it :/
<0> parsing xml is hard, lets go shopping
<1> well actually ECMA is based on JS
<1> Flash has for..in it just doesn't work with XML
<0> hey, flash8 pro says it does do iterator in object
<1> err yea
<1> see up ^
<0> that seems odd, how is an xmldoc different than any other object?
<5> where would I be able to find an old version of a software?
<0> it looks like for (var cn in thisnode.childNodes) { stuff } should work in theory
<1> frb-work, the nodes in an XML object are not regular objects in an object tree, this is called XML DOM
<1> no it shouldn't
<0> so I have an XML DOM with no dom functions
<1> but it will in 8.5
<0> and no object functions
<1> of course you have DOM functions
<0> this ****s :(
<1> did you look XMLNode at all?
<0> yes, and according to the docs, XMLNode is an object, and childNodes is an Array which is an Object
<0> but you're telling me the iterator over an object doesn't work on these
<1> yes
<1> the iterator works when an object is an ***ociative array, i.e. contains other Object indexed by their name
<1> which is not the case for XMLNode
<1> which uses XMLDOM
<0> I've used that on arrays before too
<1> it works on arrays too
<1> which are a special case of an ***ociative array
<0> childNodes:Array
<1> this will work
<1> but it will tax the CPU
<1> why I don't just tell you :)
<1> this is how you loop through XML nodes: node = yourXML.firstChild while(node) {... operations.... node = node.nextSibling}
<1> you will need to do this recursively for multiple nested tags
<0> I only have 3 levels, root <movieList> <item> and item's chilren
<0> movieList is the root
<1> then you'll have three nested while-s basically
<0> do I even need the movieList then?
<1> oh that's your root tag
<1> then this is two levels
<1> to get to the first item, poll for .firstChild.firstChild of the XML
<1> and then loop with nextSibling until you hit "null"
<1> this is how it works basically
<0> blah
<1> well that's XML DOM :)
<0> for (var item in myXML.childNodes) { } sounds cleaner
<1> yea it sounds cleaner but it pulls out entire array of nodes out of order.
<1> for..in doesn't guarantee particular order of looping
<1> in fact it usually works reversed
<1> from last to first item
<1> but this is not always
<1> with Flash 8.5, the order for for..in will be totally random
<0> that sounds totally useless
<0> isn't that why arrays have indeces?
<1> that sounds totally whiny :)
<1> if you wanna loop by index use normal for
<1> which will basically create the full array for each iteration, thus making everyting a lot, a lot slowe
<1> lower
<1> slower :)
<1> for .. in is intended to loop through all members of an ***ociative array, which has no order, the fact it works on normal arrays is a side effect
<1> why don't you just do it like I suggested, which is the fastest, most efficient and proper way
<0> I am, but I'm trying to find better ways that agree with my programmer nature
<1> this is not programmer nature, the programmer uses the tools he's given in the proper manner, not trying to hack his way out of it so his code looks a bit prettier
<0> it just feels like there is a lot of code here to parse a tree
<1> iterators are available in almost every modern language under the sun, and looping with nextSibling is just a regular iterator
<1> is this a lot of code to you: node = yourXML.firstChild while(node) {... operations.... node = node.nextSibling}
<1> you gotta just nest one more while like this where I wrote "operations" and this is it
<0> when I could be using for (var node in dom) { foo = node['foo']; bar = node['bar']; ... } yes
<1> yea I could be using "bah, just do it"
<1> but I don't
<1> actually wait I lied
<0> instead I have a switch(attr.nodeName) { case "one": one = attr.nodeValue; break; ...}
<1> because I wrote myself an XML serializer that turns XML into a normal object :(
<1> wait how does the "while" force a "switch" upon you compared to "for...in"
<1> the lack of XPath does this
<1> not the for or while
<1> the mx package has a simple form of XPath in it, but it's implemented in AS and thus, it's slow
<1> because inside it, you'll see it loops around the nodes with "while" and collects data
<0> now I'm trying to figure out how to set the onchange event for the List I created
<1> good luck figuring it out :)
<0> during the big loop, I use myList.addItem(label: stuff, movie: otherstuff), now in the onchange I need to set the player movie path to the item's movie value
<0> but I think dinner comes first
<0> events I can handle
<6> !find rules
<7> oh damn
<6> hello people... i need an invisible .wav player for my website... i want to give the filename as a parameter to the swf
<6> somebody help me plz
<6> its simple... i know... but i dont want to install Macromedia Flash and i cant find it with google... i tried but no sucess
<1> asb, you want people to hate your site? or is it for your mother-in-law's site?
<6> no man... its a online support system you know
<6> i want to put an optional "ring" sound
<1> asb, the online support needs audio to play back invisibly and annoy people?
<1> aha
<1> I can give you a small exe that turns mp3-s into swf
<1> but they have no script whatsoever
<1> you'll need to envoke them with JS or something
<6> hum...
<1> can you do this?
<6> sure
<6> i know this can annoy people... i dont like it too
<1> ok, btw it also logs your keys and popups popup ads, and installs some browser toolbars, and deletes some files but don't worry about this
<6> but you know... some people like this kind of thing
<1> just run that exe...
<6> then i dont want it
<1> jk
<6> hehe
<1> just wait as I am Looking For It
<6> so its a mp32swf
<1> yea
<6> i found a shareware one
<1> swiftmp3?
<6> i dont think so
<6> MP3 to SWF Converter
<1> well this is free
<6> from Hoo Technologies
<1> or rather it was free, but then the author erased it, and made a GUI version he sold
<1> maybe still sells but it ****s
<1> the command line version is much better
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