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Chris: Rofl, I just crack every single Adobe product I get... Not really so hard.

<Leaderman> I do properties on the file says opens with FlashMx 6.0 R25 I know i have mx
<Leaderman> should open
<Leaderman> is there anything i can do to convert
<lra_> is there anything i can do to convert <--- go to your nearest church and ask them you want to convert?
<al-x> lolz
<al-x> best smart-*** comments are found in this chan
<al-x> i swear
<logreybim> i was gonna say circumsize yourself
<motolov> duh, how do i create a looped event, timed out in seconds, there a way? something like: cObj.setTransform(... every 5 seconds, alternating values on each p***
<mrmg> setInterval
<motolov> that sounds ***y
<mrmg> myInt = setInterval(***yFunction, howOften);
<mrmg> ***yFunction() does your stuff
<mrmg> Anyway, home time
<Leaderman> so it was probly made in ver 8
<Leaderman> or 7 huh
<motolov> if youre having trouble opening it yeah i guess so
<al-x> howOften being milliseconds
<al-x> and clearInterval(myInt); to stop it (in mrmg's example)
<Leaderman> im buying version 8 now *cough**cough*
<al-x> i need to get 8
<nickfury> 8 == awesome
<nickfury> been using it since day 1
<nickfury> done tons of content in it too
<suv4x4> gentleman, behold me free flash 8 copy, cuz I'm a griggin betatester
<suv4x4> friggin even
<al-x> nickfury: oh i dont doubt it
<nickfury> i had the pre-build which ****ed.
<al-x> just a question of deniros
<nickfury> bah
<nickfury> use the dem
<nickfury> o
<suv4x4> nickfury, the authoring has quirks unfortunaty, but paint them less annoying than the original MX2004 release before the patches
<al-x> i guess
<nickfury> al-x do you work for a company?
<nickfury> or are you freelance
<al-x> nickfury: both
<nickfury> pfft.. just use demo .. they expect you too
<nickfury> i mean let's be honest...
<nickfury> macromedia has made it VERY easy to register that piece of software.
<nickfury> regardless of illegal or legal
<nickfury> they just want everyone using their software
<nickfury> great model if you ask me
<al-x> maybe it's so that they can collect all the fines
<al-x> hehehehehe
<suv4x4> nickfury, then what's with the damn activation
<al-x> like speeding tickets
<nickfury> suv4x4 there isnot
<nickfury> err none
<nickfury> it's as simple as .. a serial number
<nickfury> every time
<suv4x4> nickfury, you're kidding
<nickfury> no sir
<Leaderman> 33% done
<nickfury> i cna imagine adobe is going to implement the authorization they have in their titles
<nickfury> but .. as it stands, a serial key which btw u can pratically MAKE up
<nickfury> works every time
<suv4x4> I don't know... in MX2004, I lost one of my activations and had to call MM to get it back. Since then I store my "activationwise" serial safe and sue corporate keygen for the working copy :) best of both worlds
<nickfury> mx2004 had a serial of X00000000000000000 and it worked
<al-x> yah
<al-x> that's been a longtime MM thing
<al-x> like 8 years
<nickfury> yep.
<al-x> that trick has worked
<nickfury> they don't care
<al-x> i dunno about don't care
<suv4x4> sure they don't
<al-x> but you have a point
<nickfury> they practically dominate the web with their authoring tool
<suv4x4> they do it for the people
<suv4x4> for free
<nickfury> yep
<nickfury> they make enough money
<nickfury> trust me :)
<al-x> enought o get bought by adobe
<nickfury> my studio bought 10 licenses.
<nickfury> for example.
<nickfury> it's lke 600 bucks isn't it
<suv4x4> nickfury, with Adobe nehind their back, maybe, but when they released MX2004, things were looking pretty bad
<nickfury> suv4x4 hardly.
<al-x> i heard they had a bit of trouble
<nickfury> they have always been on top
<al-x> my friend had stock
<suv4x4> and MAcromedia was cutting staff, and spitting out excuses that people don't buy MX2004, because MX was good enough
<al-x> in them
<nickfury> just because mx2004 wasn't anything special
<nickfury> doesn't mean they werent' still on top
<al-x> shareholders are fickle man
<nickfury> ya.. but mx 2004 wasn't anything interesting anyway.. it still survived.
<suv4x4> nickfury, well I can tell this is now how it felt inside the company (that comes from the people themselves)
<nickfury> meh.
<suv4x4> they were determined not to screw up flash 8
<suv4x4> because MX2004 was a big screw up
<AN10> in what way?
<nickfury> it was interseting .. i was always on the current versions so
<nickfury> i never felt anything negative abuot any of the versions
<suv4x4> AN10, released prematurely, it was highly unstable, never has MAcromedia released patches for a version TWO in a row
<nickfury> i think the dev's that don't use flash for ALL it's uses, felt it was lacking but that's not flash developers if you ask me
<nickfury> flash developers to me == design + dev
<suv4x4> AN10, and had no features for its core audience: designers
<nickfury> there were alot of intersting features for design as well
<nickfury> sure there was
<nickfury> advanced drawing abilities
<suv4x4> nickfury, not how designers felt
<nickfury> animation tricks
<nickfury> suv4x4
<nickfury> i am the designer u speak of
<suv4x4> nickfury, what advanced drawing abilities / animation tricks man :)!?
<suv4x4> nickfury, timeline effects !? :)
<AN10> so what are the main differences between mx and 8?
<nickfury> i really can't remember to be honest
<suv4x4> AN10, plenty... can't even begin to start to begin :)
<suv4x4> as a start, Macromedia was very sensitive to the critics who said designers were left behind with XM2004
<AN10> k
<suv4x4> and Macromedia was running the "expressiveness" line to explain Flash 8 is more expressive for designers
<nickfury> ok
<nickfury> have you guys played MTA:SA
<nickfury> it's.. ****ing incredibe
<AN10> i used mx but havent done anything in flash for 2 years
<suv4x4> then it also has increidble advancements in the component skinning abilities and for the first time: bitmap API and filters
<suv4x4> AN10, if you used MX and dind't like MX2004... you'll love Flash 8
<AN10> im thinking about buying it..but it's expensive
<suv4x4> AN10, and the f8 player has practically over 60% penetration now for ust 2 months
<AN10> $300 upgrade
<suv4x4> AN10, yes, well that depends on where you live, but I think it's worth it
<AN10> 60% is not bad
<suv4x4> AN10, if you're doing Flash professionally
<suv4x4> AN10, yes 60% is GREAT
<AN10> i will be
<suv4x4> AN10, and that's even the conservative projection, because in december it was 50%
<AN10> when was the player released?
<suv4x4> AN10, September
<suv4x4> for one friggin month
<suv4x4> they got 50%
<AN10> hmm, shouldnt i have been asked to upgrade by now? :)
<suv4x4> this is because of AutoUpdates and their Expres Installer system
<AN10> ah
<suv4x4> Express..
<AN10> it updates automatically ifi visit a site with v8 flash?
<suv4x4> most people who have flash 6 and 7 almost painlessly upgrade to F8 with this
<AN10> brb. phone
<suv4x4> AN10, yes it even updates without doing anything if autoupdates are running (just like Windows Automatic Updates: it shows in your tray there's update and you just gotta click "yes")
<NaHeMiA> whoah!! I just got an email back from macromedia saying that their site cannot sell to people in my country, because of recent company buyout by adobe
<NaHeMiA> They can't sell the US?!
<suv4x4> NaHeMiA, eh?
<suv4x4> NaHeMiA, that wouldn't make sense.
<NaHeMiA> That's what I thought..
<suv4x4> can you put the EML up somewhere?
<NaHeMiA> http://pastebin.com/535637


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