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<0> my only gripe with linux is i still havn't really cracked the filesystems code
<1> what do you mean?
<0> I mean... i have a linux+ book that explains it kinda
<1> commands .. or code?
<0> well they kinda just put **** in random places
<0> na the filesystem
<1> you mean the code to read/write the filesystem?
<0> na na
<1> its inside the linux kernel..
<1> ah ok.. what then :x
<0> na if i was that advanced i wouldn't be asking these questions :P
<0> na i mean like the filesystem tree...
<0> like i know what boot and dev and media and so mean
<0> but a lot of em im not sure what they are for
<1> ah ok..
<1> !google fhs
<2> http://www.fhsg.ch/
<1> nope not that
<1> !google fhs linux
<2> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
<1> that
<1> this is the best doc about why stuff goes to where it goes to
<1> it is a little complex in bits.. but in general you should understnad it i think
<0> yah this is the same document i have
<1> ok then..
<0> i have it in .doc
<1> you can see /boot : Static files of the boot loader
<0> i didn't really dig into it too deep
<0> right right
<1> look at the toc.. it gives an overview
<0> /usr/ is user specific apps
<1> yup
<1> anything in /usr ... is NOT required to make the system "work"
<1> notice i quote those
<1> because it works.. but only with the basic functionality.. like console level
<0> right right
<0> deleteing /usr would be stupid
<0> but what gets me is inside those there are multiple branches
<0> i mean the more i **** with it the more i pick it up
<0> what i find i don't like about fedora is it seems to install stuff in difrent locations than what the 'default' places are...
<0> i ran into some trouble installing flash support becase fedora installs firefox in /firefox-ver where the flash package installs it to /mozilla...
<0> just stuff like that that i need to get more familiar with...
<1> yeah its a major issue with distros in general
<1> this is why the "lsb" was created
<0> lsb?
<1> the "linux standard base"
<1> basically its an attempt to push all the files into the proper places
<0> ah i herd about that on a forum
<1> oh.. btw firefox and mozilla are different things?
<0> they are diffrent but some packages for firefox come in /mozilla bundles apperently'
<1> hrmm.. maybe yeah ..
<1> but that is an issue more with the firefox/mozilla group than redhat probably :x
<0> so... do you think i should just reinstall FC5t3, check the packages for KDE and Gnome so i get em both?
<1> yeah
<1> that way you can pick and choose
<0> or do you think installing the kde stuff is easyer than i think it will be
<1> i think start fresh.. you have broken repos.. as it is..
<1> so the kde install might not work :?
<0> well it works when i comment those repos out in yumex
<1> ah ok..
<0> its just a pain in the *** to tell it to do that every time
<0> i was trying to figure out how to 'remove' them
<1> Suspekt: try removing from /etc/yum.conf
<1> well just comment them out!
<1> in case you make issues :x
<0> ok they are all files in a folder... gimmy a sec
<0> ****ing gui with user rights
<0> whats the delete command?
<0> rm?
<1> yup
<1> rm = remove
<0> and to delete mutiple things i just press space and type in next name?
<0> permission denied...
<0> oh forgot to su
<0> ok lets give this a try...
<3> hey all
<3> I have some problems with FC5-test3 build 1977
<3> it doesn't boot, opposite of build 1975 wich works without any problems
<3> it stops on saying "Write protecting the kernel read-only"
<3> does anyone have an idea where I can find the cause of this problem?
<0> no clue
<0> i am working with FC5 without that problem
<3> which kernel?
<0> um...
<0> how do i find that out
<3> uname -a
<0> Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 #1 Thu Feb 23 14:53:53 EST 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
<3> can you do a dmesg|more for me, and look for the line "Write protecting the kernel read-only" ?
<3> I am curious what the line following that is...
<0> Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 #1 Thu Feb 23 14:53:53 EST 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
<0> uh
<0> its a lot what where u lookin for
<0> oh ok
<0> 136k
<3> and the next line?
<0> excuse me
<0> Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.15-1.1977_FC5 #1 Thu Feb 23 14:53:53 EST 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
<0> Write protecting the kernel read-only data: 361k
<0> Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 5.9, id: 0x2c6ab1, caps: 0x884793/0x0
<3> ah, ok
<3> I think it has something to do with my keyboard
<0> might'
<0> znx... i am going to use the Fedora package tool that only runs from the DVD and install the KDE stuff, then update them
<1> sounds like a good idea
<0> think thats smarter than doing it via yum... which i must say is alien to me
<0> i am much more familiar with Synaptic package manager... it would be nice if i could use that with RH depositories and RPMs... or better yet if some one would write a clone of Synaptic for yum
<1> Suspekt: you can install apt-get for fedora..
<1> and use synaptic
<0> but that won't work with RPMs?
<1> yes
<0> only debs right
<1> nope
<1> for rpms
<0> hum...
<0> konquorer aint on this list...
<0> we got Autorun/desktop-printing/kdeaddons/kdeartwork/kdeadmin/kdegraphics/kdemultimedia/kdenetwork/kdeplm/kdeutills
<0> ... probably unter utillities?
<3> I found related items on bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182731
<0> ...
<0> man... this is looking complicated
<0> i might just should run in KDE...
<0> man
<0> complicated *** OS
<0> lol
<0> well...
<0> i got konqueror installed
<0> but its slow as holy heck
<0> i clicked and it only JUSt launched
<0> i guess it had to launch all the k libs
<0> F it... im just gunna reformat and go with a KDE build
<0> sorry gnome... perhaps we will meet again someday
<4> startkeylogger
<5> hi i just got my RHCE but companies say im still not qualified to use linux in their company
<5> what other cert could i take?
<6> hmm heh.. Novell maybe?
<5> they don't use novell, just linux
<5> i think they use linux 2003 server
<6> Novell have linux certs..
<5> oh
<5> what's the names of some
<5> and which should i take to get a decent job with linux
<6> Novell Certified Linux Professional (Novell CLP) For those interested in being Linux administrators.
<6> Novell Certified Linux Engineer 9 (Novell CLE 9) For those wanting advanced SUSE Linux Enterprise Server administration skills.
<5> that's for SUSE though
<7> if you get your cousin pregnent on accident, is that a felony?
<6> but Im not really going to say its an expressway to a job
<6> indeed it is suse, you asked for linux certs
<5> is there a cert that's good for all of linux
<5> the employer basically said RHCE is for idiots and black people
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