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<0> actually that is wrong, here is the corrected one
<0> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-25235.html
<0> how about updating the x system
<1> well if you use the wrong graphic driver it shouldn't work to start x so i know the problem i just don't have a console tool to change driver
<0> you can update it using YUM
<1> doing a full system update now :)
<0> that hasn't worked for me
<1> but yum usually saves old config files :(
<0> i get all the packs and then it doesnt install one and it crashes
<1> since it would be very frustrating for a system admin updating a server and loosing the configuration that he might have spent weeks on
<0> how about updating it from this place: ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/testing/unstable/xorg-x11/6.8.1-12/
<0> using elinks
<0> u know how to use elinks right?
<1> yes
<1> but updating won't change the configuration
<0> well here on the forum one said that it worked for him after updating
<1> and the problem is in the configuration, need a configuration tool that isn't graphical
<0> cause of a problem with release 10
<0> how is the update going?
<0> malic has left now
<0> i cant get that answer
<1> dowloading packages...
<1> but what is the most compatible video driver for xorg ?
<0> i got ati and is working
<0> for games
<0> nvidia should have lots of up to date support
<0> ati is kinda lagin
<1> yes but i just wan't a desktop up and running so i can configure it with ati later, tried svga as driver but that doesn't exist
<0> it should identify by itself
<0> it did it for me, well i do have a laptop
<0> but i got to get ready for the next system i'm going to build
<1> well it doesn't autodetect
<0> u got PCI-E
<1> nope agp
<0> what kind of card?
<0> u said nvidia what?
<1> nope i had nvidia changed to ati radeon
<0> today it seems the channel is not active
<1> that was when the problems started
<0> radeon 9250 is what i have but it is windows for right now
<1> i got a radeon x700pro
<0> whoa
<0> sweet thing
<1> it's ok,
<0> one more thing, when i did install the proprietary drivers for the video card, on laptop, the games did now work
<1> i can play hl2 but they keep making it harder for me :(
<0> i play enemy-territory
<0> and with the open source drivers it works great
<1> ok
<1> what type of game is that ?
<1> i only play counter-strike source (in windows)
<0> first player shooter
<0> like counter strike, it is online only, free of charge
<2> online only?
<0> yeah
<2> er.. nope
<0> unless u want to run it as a server and u play by yourself
<2> sure..
<2> heh
<0> lots of servers out there though
<2> yeah tonnes
<0> tonnes?
<0> yes
<0> what u play?
<1> nice, maybe i'll try it, is it native linux or do you need to use wine ?
<0> native
<1> even better
<0> get it from wolfenstein site
<1> k
<1> and it's free of charge
<0> wine does not play games
<0> free everything
<1> totally cool :)
<1> wine did work with the old counter strike
<1> or winex
<0> really , i cant get it to work with google earth
<1> isn't google earth using internet explorer ?
<0> i don't know the back bone
<3> yes it is
<3> and that ****s
<0> i thought it uses a defined internet connection funciton in the os
<0> ****s big time
<0> but wine has internet explorer in there
<1> well but they might have skipped implementing all windows functions internet explorer uses since internet explorer is all over windows
<0> i have wine installed and explorer is there, notepad is there and stuff
<0> i think they did for safety
<1> soon got all the 385 packages that needed update :)
<0> are they installing?
<1> nope still downloading
<1> not much left though
<1> now it's running "Transaction test"
<0> ill try updating while u do it too
<1> hehe ok
<0> error: no more mirrors to try
<0> there goes updating
<1> well since my installation doesn't work i though what the hell, i'll try an update :)
<1> well i get some scriptlet errors when installing,
<1> so my installation might be totally corrupt now
<0> well it might just be the mirrors thing
<1> nope.
<1> it's really installing now
<1> but if it uses transactions it should be possible to revert... hmm... does it really use transactions ?
<0> really not that far knowledge of the system
<1> i just bought a kvm switch today so i'm switching alot between the two computers now :)
<0> oh , i thought u had one next to the other
<1> well they are next to each other but i use the same screen and stuff to both, pretty nice
<0> i meant each having their own stuff
<0> key and mouse
<1> i usually run the other computer on windows but windows didn't like my kvm switch the mouse got laggy don't know why
<1> so i though well i just boot linux and see if it works there then it should be software related but then i got into all this **** with xorg because i didn't fix the config when i changed graphic adapter :(
<0> lots of work
<0> hope it is very worth while
<1> yep, but it's not nice to get back to the store and tell them the thing doesn't work if the problem is that i need to change mouse driver
<0> yeah, mouse drivers
<1> but windows doesn't usually need any drivers for my logitech mouse
<0> it is usb or ps2?
<0> usb sometimes does
<1> it's usb, mouseman dual optical
<0> actually linux seems to work with my optical dell mouse
<1> it works fine if i plug it directly in the computer instead of the kvm
<0> plug&play
<0> could u test the KVM?
<0> maybe just maybe it is bad
<1> well that's why i try to start Xorg on that computer to see if its the computer or the mouse or the kvm
<1> i've had some problems with the powersupply on that computer so maybe the problem is that the kvm doesn't get enough power
<1> since it takes power from the usb
<0> doesn't i come with its own power?
<1> nope, it's a simple thing just a little box with usb,video input and usb, video out
<1> and i don't know if it uses power from both computers at the same time or just one at the time
<0> there is one that it does use the power from, that is what happened when i used one
<0> a kvm
<1> so it is only using power from one of them ?? hmm.. weird if that one gets powered off then
<1> i use this one, http://www.aten.com/products/productItem.php?pcid=20050103163647001&psid=20050107104840001&pid=2005011817049002
<0> i know that i had to set up one system just to supply power, not that it uses a lot but i had problems
<0> that looks good
<1> got x up and running with vesa driver now :)
<0> good
<1> and it does not have the mouse trouble windows have
<0> u got desktop to work and login, what do u see?
<1> well everything works now
<1> so now the problem is gone, now i can change the video driver
<0> wow, updated system
<1> no i edited the xorg.conf file cause the update failed
<0> so u working now or what happened?
<1> yep now i'm working on to get the ati driver up and running
<1> any one know where yum keeps its cache of downloaded packages ?
<1> ran out of diskspace :(
<1> thats why the update failed :(
<0> yum is located in the /etc forlder at least the config fiel
<4> leg0: /var/cache/yum
<1> thnx
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