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<0> I prefer external CPEs, easier to replace and deal with.
<0> Especially since I can avoid PPP and use straight bridging.
<0> Just plug the bridge CPE right into a NIC and I'm good to go.
<1> yeah i wish my isp would do that
<1> i dont see why we need p***words and logins
<0> It makes it much easier to administrate for the ISP.
<0> Without PPP, you end up with problems like eating more IP space, dealing with freaky bridge groups, provisioning difficulties, et cetera...
<2> uh?
<0> OggyX2?
<0> <-- Provisioning Specialist at a Nationwide ISP
<2> alright alright



<2> i hear ya
<2> :P
<2> Night
<2> why can't I play auto ***ault
<0> Good question. Why can't you?
<2> well it wont let me log in
<0> Is it properly installed and patched? Did you create an NCSoft account and add your preorder code?
<1> Night: what isp?
<1> do you work with?
<2> add a preorder code?
<0> Nationwide Internet :/
<0> We interconnect with SBC, Verizon, Qwest, and New Edge for DSL, and with Alpheus and XO for DS1+ services.
<0> OggyX2, yes, the weekend beta ended. Get a code from a $2 box at CompUSA.
<1> Night: do you know of the westell wirespeed series of modems?
<1> ive been trying to get detailed info on what this modem supports, but i cant find
<0> In p***ing. We don't support any.
<0> I just found the datasheet on westell.com.
<0> Heh, I have a CPE that looks just like that in the storage room.
<1> can you tell me if they support atm?
<0> Everything supports ATM, nobody uses Frame-Relay on DSL any more.
<1> hmm
<0> It looks like it's just a straight bridge.
<1> because i was using pppoe on it with verizon
<0> As a NAT router, or PPPoE from a system behind it as a bridge?
<1> hmm at the time it was connected only to one computer
<1> and it was pppoe
<0> Did the computer log in, or was the modem configured with the username and p***word?
<3> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=322512&pfp=SEARCH
<1> the computer logged in
<0> Yeah.
<0> So it's just a straight bridge.
<0> Jefreymon, it's $1.98 in stores now.
<3> "]
<3> How long will it last tho
<1> Night: then im confused.. if it's just a straight bridge and it supports atm, shouldn't i be able to use ppp over atm on a linux box if it's connected to the eth0 port of that modem?
<0> Until some time prior to 4/9.
<3> oh
<0> You have no ATM connection between the PC and the modem.
<3> thats not long :/
<0> Only ethernet on the local side of the modem.
<1> ugh
<0> That's not a problem if your ISP requires PPPoE.



<3> hmm
<1> Night: ok new question
<3> do I dare say: I told ya not to order OEM?
<0> Did Oggy get a DOA drive?
<1> Night: my isp wants me to get the action tec 701, which obtains the IP via PPPoA
<0> Right.
<0> Qwest doesn't ship those any more, actually. :P
<1> Night: is it possible to have the modem act only as a mode, and instead have the ip ***igned to my linux box?
<1> errm act only as a modem
<0> No.
<1> argh
<0> Not with the 701.
<1> with what then?
<4> :P
<3> newegg is deliberatly sending out broken OEM drives and then blaming UPS :/
<0> The only one I think that -might- -possible- do it is an old piece of **** Greatspeed that has a PPPoA<>PPTP relay mode.
<1> i might as well get an adsl modem
<1> erm pci
<0> Right.
<0> Or a bridge that will feed you ATM over USB.
<1> Night: the actiontec 701 has a usb port on it
<1> will that do?
<0> I don't know.
<0> The normal bridging mode doesn't work like that.
<1> you mean the bridging mode on the 701
<0> Right.
<0> I'm unfamiliar with it's USB interface, so all I can say it maybe.
<1> actually when i plug the usb port into my linux box, it gets registered as an eth1
<0> Probably not, then.
<0> If you get an atm0, you should be able to run PPPoA.
<2> CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+, 2.02 GHz, 512 KB (0% Load)
<1> Night: ok new question
<1> actually nvmd
<1> i should just try it later
<0> Ok.
<1> well actually
<1> i have my dsl modem which im resigning to the fact that it will always have the ip from my provider
<1> i have a linksys wireless gateway which also has 4 ethernet ports to it.. can i set that to be a simple bridge? so that it links my wired and wireless networks together to the dsl modem?
<0> Usually, though it depends on the configuration.
<0> Plug the CPE into a LAN port on it and disable the DHCP server so everything gets an IP from the CPE.
<0> If it has an AP-only or bridging mode for the wireless, use that.
<0> Normally they will bridge wired and wireless LAN, so hooking them up that way will normally work.
<1> CPE = ?
<1> the modem you mean
<0> Yes.
<0> Customer Premises Equipment


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