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<0> providing ****loads more bandwith
<0> then AGP or PCI
<0> it's far from just a slot
<1> you mean pic-e?
<1> agp?
<0> AGP is just a modification
<0> of PCI
<0> frequency increased
<0> seperated from the PCI bus
<0> and transfers 2, 4 or 8x per cycle
<1> the slot does?
<1> or the chips
<0> the AGP bus
<1> the bus is a slot?
<1> or a chip
<0> the slot connects to a bus
<1> see
<0> which is controlled by the agp controller
<0> in the chipset
<1> see
<1> hehe
<1> the slot is fine
<1> AGP
<0> oh of course
<1> :]
<0> they could have used the same AGP slot
<0> but the bus
<1> yeah!
<1> wtf
<0> would have been incompatible with all AGP cards
<0> and they could not
<0> have made it capable of both
<0> types of buses
<0> completely different signalling
<1> ill hold onto AGP for a little while longer :<
<0> AGP is a parallel interface
<0> PCIe is a serial interface
<0> and worse PCI
<1> hehe
<0> was a shared Parallel Interface
<1> yeah
<1> find a pic video card
<1> not going to happen
<0> they do exist
<1> I have 10
<0> still in production
<1> :>
<1> hehe
<1> old
<0> even new ones
<0> used for multi-display
<1> yeah...i looked on newegg a couple days ago
<1> pci video cards
<1> a few
<0> 5slot on PCI = shared 133MB/sec bandwith
<0> 5 x2 PCIe slots = dedicated 266MB/sec per slot
<0> bandwith
<1> yeah
<1> they have to change the slot
<0> they had to change everything
<0> number of traces
<0> on the mobo
<0> which is WAY less
<0> signalling, power
<0> chipset
<0> etc
<1> Yonah is a 478 socket
<1> but it wont work on my board
<0> of course not
<1> thats why they have to change the socket
<1> :]
<1> thats why they should change the socket
<1> thats why they do :~(
<1> thats why I can't use my AGP card on a conroe :~(
<0> actually
<0> I'm wrong
<1> what
<0> PCIe x1=250MB/sec send and receive
<0> so 500MB/sec by-directional
<0> bi-
<1> hehe
<0> x2 is double, x4 4times, x16, 16times
<0> :)
<0> which means x16=4000MB/sec in each direction
<0> at the same time
<1> its not the socket tho
<0> of course not
<0> you'd be stupid to invent a new protocol
<0> and a new thing
<0> and not change the slot
<1> yeah
<0> would cause too much confusion
<1> yeah
<1> ok, brb...smoke time
<0> CI; 33MHz, 32-bitMBps-
<0> PCI-Express x1MBps-
<0> AGP 2xMBps-
<0> PCI-Express x400MBps-
<0> AGP 4x66MBps-
<0> AGP 8x33MBps-
<0> PCI-Express x1600MBps-
<0> so x16 is pretty much twice
<0> as fast as AGP 8X
<0> most chipsets handle 20lanes
<0> so it's up to them to allocate them
<0> to each slots
<0> 16 of em
<0> goes to the vid card
<0> and usually 2 x2 slots
<0> or 4 x1s
<0> or 2 x1s and 1 x2
<0> etc
<0> and each slot is compatible with each other
<0> so you can put an x1 device in an x2 or an x4 or an x8 or x16
<0> as long as there's enough lanes
<0> available for it
<0> it works
<0> you can even put an x16 card
<0> and put it in an x1 slot
<0> :)
<0> and it will function at x1 speed
<0> it's a fun interface
<0> lol
<0> x32 is in the standard
<0> aswell
<0> just not exactly used
<0> http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_PCI_Express.html
<0> bed time
<0> gnight
<0> Pentium4e: read the url
<0> I just posted above
<0> interesting
<0> 92F idle
<0> :)
<0> that's ok
<0> 91-92f actually
<0> gnight
<2> Date/Time Activity Location Details
<2> 03/27/2006 04:57:00 OUT FOR DELIVERY[I] ELKHART, IN, US
<2> sweet
<2> =)
<2> meh
<2> :B
<1> Temp: [Case] 28.0C [CPU] 54.0C
<3> Hmm.
<3> whats this water comin outa the sky
<3> CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+, 2.80 GHz, 512 KB (0% Load)
<4> http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=58113
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