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<0> nah
<1> gnight
<0> they'll have conroe celerons
<0> take conroe with 4MB cache
<2> happy birthday eve baf
<0> kill 1 core, cripple 3/4 of the cache
<0> and you get celeron
<1> what
<1> tomrorow is birthday eve
<1> tues is my first day of 16 :>
<2> well...couple hrs
<2> :/
<1> tomrorows my last day of 15
<1> my birthday = tues
<1> :
<1> :>
<2> ok ok
<1> bday eve eve :>
<2> for an hr
<0> well happy bday in advance
<1> true
<2> so, happy birthday eve tomorrow
<2> if I dont see ya
<2> :]
<0> Pentium4e: so ya celeron conroe will be a single core cpu with 1MB cache instead of dual-core with 4MB cache :)
<2> Im just glad I wont have to buy AMD for home use :>
<0> or they'll be genereous and leave it dual-core with 1MB cache
<1> ty
<1> off to bed gnit
<2> [BAF64]: ok, talk to you later
<1> ttyl
<2> ?? amd
<3> g night
<2> hehe
<0> nah
<2> j/k
<0> the K8 arch was great
<0> K6, K7 was so-so
<2> there good
<0> K8 is extremely well made
<2> yep
<2> x2 is nice
<0> the entire line
<0> is nice
<2> amd64's....never all that impressed
<0> it's all the same arch
<0> a64s were designed to be multi-core from the start
<0> they were just waiting to be shrunk enough
<0> to put in the 2nd one
<3> lol i played ut2k4 in my lappy t64 acer :)
<3> <-now in office
<2> my X2 at work is the only other CPU I would own besides this one
<0> great CPUs
<0> but Conroe is well, something that's going to give AMD some fierce competition
<2> the X2 out preforms this one in some tests...others this one will....but ti think the X2 is better
<0> seems Intel's Israeli research dept is pretty damn good :)
<2> oh?
<0> Banias, Dothan, Yonah, Core Arch(merom, conroe, woodcrest)
<0> all comes from there
<2> nice
<0> Pentium-M, 2nd Gen Pentium-M, Dual-Core Pentium-M
<0> :)
<0> 3rd Gen Pentium-M, 1st-Gen Desktop Pentium-M, 1st-Gen Server Pentium-M
<0> :)
<0> actually
<0> it's 4th gen
<0> really
<2> dosnt seem a place for all that thought to come from
<2> Israel ?
<0> yup
<0> very smart people it seems
<2> Im sure that intelligent people are everywhere....but they need the proper enviroment to thrive
<2> Israel ?
<2> :]
<0> P4 arch came from the states, I'm sure, fast, consumes lots of eletricity, ineficient
<0> etc
<0> like your Average american v8
<0> car
<2> dont see many v8's around anymore :/
<0> less and less
<0> but I know americans like it big, powerfull, and guzzling
<2> powerfull for sure
<0> granted, not all
<2> I dont care how large it is :>
<0> but Netburst in general sounds like an american design
<0> that's all
<2> american design is what it is...
<2> too many things in the background working
<2> of course #1 is $$$
<0> hehe
<0> of course
<0> altho
<0> netburst was a more expensive core
<0> then core will be
<0> per unit
<0> altho 4MB of cache
<0> they have to use 65nm
<0> cuz that's a bit much
<0> on 90nm or even worse
<0> on a 130nm
<0> would take too much space on a wafer
<0> per cpu
<2> conroe has probably been on the shelf for a while...waiting for its time to make more money :/
<0> hehe
<0> possibly
<2> like a carberator that gets 200 miles/gl
<2> you can just let it out that fast :/
<2> can't
<2> it is exciting tho...new CPU technology being released
<0> it's been a bit stagnant
<0> for a while
<2> yeah
<2> AMD is really stagnant
<0> well
<0> single core
<0> dual-core
<2> they probably have something on there shelf as well
<0> maybe
<0> all that's known
<0> is socket AM2
<0> with DDR-II support
<2> yeah
<2> yep
<2> nice
<0> which isn't much
<0> considering AMD's chip doesn't benifit much from extra bandwith
<0> like P4 does
<2> uh oh
<0> might even loose a bit of steam cuz of the extra latency of DDR-II
<0> but I doubt it
<0> Pentium-M gained from moving from DDR-I to DDR-II
<0> so should be similar for AMD
<0> not as much as when P4 moved to it tho
<0> but that's by design for P4
<0> it eats memory bandwith for breakfast
<0> lunch and dinner
<0> and a few snacks in between
<2> hehe
<2> sounds pretty happy
<2> :]
<0> DDR-II 667 is it at the moment
<0> -800 is on it's way
<0> so P4 will be even happier
<0> I think fastest P4 at the moment, is the P4EE 3.73ghz, Dual-core
<0> but it's very expensive
<0> 1066Mhz FSB, HT Enabled on both cores
<2> I havnt been able to reach 4ghz yet
<2> stable at 3.8
<0> that's nice
<0> 4ghz is a bit harder
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