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<0> if theres a security whole found, its patched soon
<1> patched
<1> whats that
<0> fixed
<0> they put out a patch so its not a hole anymore
<0> Jefreymon, well thats common sense
<0> dont give root unless you trust the person
<0> that applies to bsd, linux, etc
<1> that word has never come to mind with bsd
<1> patch
<2> not even root
<0> yes it does
<0> BSD has security holes too
<0> nothing can be fully secured
<0> im sorry, but even bsd coders, even if they are gods in yoru mind, aren't that perfect
<2> dont be sorry
<2> :}
<0> now, can you make an relevant comparison?
<0> im serioulsy curious whats so better about BSD
<2> I did
<2> you just dont listen
<0> i dont want all this crap about security and stability, if you know what your doing, linux is as stable as bsd
<0> Jefreymon, if you had barf next to Insomnia's box, what would be better about Insomnia's box
<1> where is the config for pasv ports in ftp
<2> nothing until you give out access
<1> BAF is getting alittle sensitive
<1> hrmm
<2> you dont want all that crap baf...but you would get it if you gave out access like I do
<2> :]
<1> redhat linux has never been stable for me
<2> ****ing hackers ask me all the time...."what OS is it"
<2> I say BSD
<1> until I started with bsd ,that is when I finally had a stable box
<2> they say "nah I dont wana trade"
<2> cuz its not as hackable
<2> linux is like the windows of unix
<2> everyone is after it
<2> noone really pays attention to BSD
<1> ah
<2> so YES baf, Linux is less secure because there ARE more root kits out there for it
<0> hm
<0> no
<0> linux isnt that hackable
<0> unless you have an ancient kernel
<2> hehe
<0> its more of a THREAT
<0> because its more popular
<0> if bsd was more popular it would have more rootkits
<0> but nobody pays attentio to it so yes, it may be more secure
<0> security through obscurity
<2> we agree :]
<2> whatdoyaknow!
<2> BAF admits BSD is more secure!
<0> heh
<0> i said it may be
<2> it is
<0> and oggy we covered it
<0> redhat ****S
<0> its the worst linux distro i've ever touched
<0> oggy, before you are totally anti-linux, try a real distro
<0> Jefreymon, and for the sake of argument, bafserv has recent patches on it, and I have at least 50 users on there
<0> with shell access
<0> never had a security problem *knock on wood*
<1> [12:34] <0> and oggy we covered it
<1> [12:34] <0> redhat ****S
<1> [12:34] <0> its the worst linux distro i've ever touched
<2> BAF: go trade on #shelltrade for a year and then tell me about it
<1> oh snap
<2> hes thinking
<2> haha
<2> I love arguing with BAF :]
<1> hahahaha
<2> its like a game of restling
<2> one little move at a time
<2> then I got him pined!
<2> SAY UNCLE BAF!
<1> WATCH IT JEFF here he comes
<2> hehe
<2> )
<0> hm
<2> yesir?
<0> i was takling to my grandma
<1> HAHAH
<1> LOL
<1> HAAH
<0> um
<0> oggy, why are you loggint hat
<0> mark my words
<0> redhat ****S BALLS
<0> to get a true feel for linux, you gota try ubuntu or mandriva
<0> a real linux distro
<0> or gentoo if you arent a n00b
<1> !learn add Redhat <0> i was takling to my grandma
<0> gentoo requires setting it all up yourself like i did on barftehdog
<0> uhm
<0> why redhat?
<0> ?? add
<1> ?? Redhat
<3> add[x]: No defenition found for word.
<3> redhat: <0> i was takling to my grandma
<0> why redhat
<0> whyd you learn it for redhat
<0> talking*
<0> lol
<1> =)
<0> we are figureing out what to get from kdf for lunch
<0> kfc
<1> !learn del Redhat
<1> BAF if you want pasv ports on the ftp
<1> im going to have to config a file
<1> dunno which one
<0> duno
<0> prolly an optin in inetd
<0> option
<0> or you can disable inetd for FTP and install something like proftpd
<1> I have it open
<0> and have it run as a daemon
<0> oggy,
<1> but I dont see anything
<0> additional optionsy ou can add to inetd.conf
<0> google it
<1> proftpd
<1> bah
<0> im pretty sure thats how you do it
<0> proftpd or vsftpd
<1> thats linux stuff
<0> works on bsd too
<0> i duno
<1> nah thats for linux
<0> i know how to work linux
<0> thats it
<0> bsd is weird
<1> BSD has the good ftp stuff
<0> proftpd is good
<0> bsd puts the home dir in /usr/home
<1> not better than sftp
<0> thats weird
<0> uhm
<0> linux has SFTP
<0> you arent using SFTP right now
<0> i prefer SCP
<0> goes over SSH
<1> Connected to oggy
<1> [R] 220 stagma.ath.cx FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready.
<4> scp works on freebsd
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