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<0> yes
<1> does it matter?
<2> yes
<0> ...
<2> Becuase if your newibe, you dont know what to chose
<2> and you getting dizzy
<2> In this books, they organize it very well..
<2> I think I will continue with "Inside delphi 2006" :)
<2> thanks alot guys..
<3> don't forget that pascal is the language delphi uses
<1> i've been thinking about a subscription to http://safari.oreilly.com/
<2> how much $$?
<4> anyone up for testing an online game later today..?
<4> basically just joining, and testing the chat functionality..
<4> aww come on.. you know it makes sense..
<3> lol
<4> don't all help at once.. :D
<5> *g*
<4> :P
<5> what kind?
<4> www.namethepicture.com
<4> it's just a case of testing out the chat.. joining / parting rooms.. chat flooding.. etc.
<4> not right now though.. later today..
<5> well if i am still around hollar when you're up to it :P
<4> ah, thanks :)
<5> you should just make fuzzbots :p
<4> what's that?
<5> heh bots that just flood with random text? :)
<4> ahh, never heard of the term..
<4> well i've tried differen't approaches.. but i'd like to just get some regular user interaction testing
<4> because you can't predict some things..
<5> joe90: best thing is to get someone totally new to it, they will ask questions you never thought of :P
<4> yeah, suppose.. i can't think who i can get :P.. it's hard enough getting #delphi to be bothered to test..
<5> hehe ask #visualbasic :p
<4> they're not worth it..
<4> :)
<6> type test = array of string; << is this not possible ?
<1> why not?
<6> dunno.. i'd like it to work :)
<5> ooO :p http://kittenwar.com
<0> http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1154174576671.jpg
<7> Poor cat....
<8> hmmm
<8> nerf hurter
<8> http://tinyurl.com/5tycr
<5> hm are there anything like "norton disk doctor" nowadays? some drive here with screwed up bits :p or a simple sector viewer or something
<5> liek theres a dir where the dir listing stops in the middle :p
<1> chkdsk ?
<5> well, something that would actually let me not screw up everything and delete whatever might be salvaged
<5> i dont know much about NTFS really.. if it was FAT i could atleast have made some sense out of it myself
<7> ootje NTFS you generally wind up using chkdsk
<7> And it sounds like the disk needs that pretty bad.
<5> ya but like i think this one dir has some hard error in the middle of a dir index
<5> and it would be sweet if it atleast could continue after whatever error
<7> That can be dealt with.
<7> IT won't.
<5> it? chkdsk?
<7> There's only one solution to this kind of thing that I know of - chkdsk with it's full scan option.
<7> It will run for hours.
<5> i remember i wrote some app in dos that recovered all files based on the FAT when dir structures had gone ****
<5> without filenames tho heh
<1> it will?
<7> Harder with NTFS, but you probably don't need that here.
<1> my 300gb hd, only took about 20 mins to chkdsk /f
<7> Do "chkdsk /R" and then go fishing for the rest of the day.
<5> wont that screw up things maybe also?
<1> or chkdsk /I
<5> it's like fsck -y :P
<1> which will repair indexes
<5> hm ill try those when all else fails then
<7> ? /I? That's to speed some stuff up.
<7> The /R generally works. Just takes F O R E V E R
<5> i guess what i dislike about chkdsk is that you dont know whats going on
<5> its just a progress bar
<7> Run it with the /V option and it'll talk to you
<5> im just running regular chkdsk on it now and see what it says first, without any fixing
<7> If its a bad directory, it may catch it, but /R means it'll recover more readable information.
<7> How badly do you need the files in the damaged directory?
<1> /r recovers actual files, chkdsk automagically fixes directories (aka indexes)
<5> well ideally i need them, but its not like life/death, just major crap losing them
<5> if i atleast knew which files were there
<7> With bad sectors, /r does some additional stuff with the directories as well. It's not well documented but I've seen it happen.
<5> now the dirlist stops after a few
<5> "dir" just suddenly stops in the middle with "file not found"
<1> chkdsk /f
<5> ok well ill run chkdsk with all those recovery options sometime then
<7> Yeah, do that first, but if it's continues to flake out or it's really a bad sector, then /R
<5> im just gonnna try to use some ntfs tools to see if i can list the dirs
<7> ootje - something I've done in the past....
<1> chkdsk d: /f
<7> Use the Linux read-only NTFS filesystem. It'll read stuff Windows won't. I once recovered 98% of a disk that Windows wouldn't even mount that way.
<7> Get something like knoppix that's CD bootable
<5> Mjolnir: ya the one on a bootdisk?
<5> i have it here somewhere
<5> this is a usb drive tho
<5> dont think mine has drivers for that
<7> That can complicate things, but if you get the latest Knoppix, it may just work.
<5> well its like a ide disk inside a usb/firewire box (maxtor)
<7> Knoppix can run a lot of those.
<5> if i open it up it voids the warranty bleh .P
<7> The main question is if it supports the USB IDE controller. I'll give you a good chance it does if you get the newest version.
<5> ok thanks ill give it a shot
<5> just reminds me more to set up raid5 or something for my next computer
<5> and proper ventilation.. i think heat killed this one
<5> didnt move it around or anything, so not that kind of damage
<7> Maybe. Worse, you bought a Maxstor.
<5> well i've had like 6 or 7 external maxtors
<5> the old ones work fine
<5> the newer ones have been problems problems problems
<8> use WDC's
<8> much better
<5> yea, i have WDs in the box
<5> but its full of disks so didnt have any more space.. hence external drives
<7> I've had so many Maxstor problems for over a decade....
<7> It's more like they have the occasional batch of drives that work rather than an occasional batch of drives that are bad.
<5> :)
<9> i must have been lucky...i always got the ones that worked
<10> o
<11> I've had nothing but Maxtor drive crashes
<11> I'll never buy them again
<1> weird
<10> FuzyLogic same here, for as long as I remember.
<1> i generally get WD drives
<10> I had really bad history with Maxtors
<9> only drive i ever had that gave me probs is the only one that isn't a maxtor...a seagate
<10> WD is known to be good. Maxtor was cheap brand
<10> seagate also ****!!!
<10> I had seagate problems too :)
<11> data is too expensive to trust with a crap drive
<5> eh chkdsk ended with "windows was not able to finish the disk check"... wtf does that mean :P
<10> Quantums are good.
<7> Means that you use the /X and /R options and go fishing.
<10> ootje eek.
<9> i have 2 old quantum fireballs..a 4G & a 502mb
<7> Basically it'll schedule things for doing it on a reboot, then you reboot, then your machine is USELESS for the next day or so.
<7> However it'll probably work when it gets done.
<10> hheh I remember installing those back in Israel, shop where I used to work, we had spanking new P3s with Quantum 4-5 gbs
<10> Fireballs :P
<9> came with my P1
<10> heh!
<10> second hand it must have been
<9> NEC
<7> ootje Where do you live?
<5> Mjolnir: oslo, norway
<10> o0 lord and LVK live in norway
<10> where on earth is LVK :)
<5> and joepezt and zath
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