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<0> i'm having some trouble with the CascadeWindows and TileWindows api functions. has anybody used them?
<0> the problem is when i try to use them on handles of forms in a DLL
<0> i'm just wondering if anyone has any ideas
<1> BeeMoul What do you mean by download?
<1> Do you mean via FTP?
<2> I think he means downloading the source of html into his application
<3> idhttp.get();
<3> or something similar
<4> doesnt borland have a news server?
<4> I could not connect to news.borland.com
<5> dns it and find out
<4> there is such a host
<4> thanks anyway for the tip :)
<5> try http://news.borland.com or something
<4> its more a server with news on it than a newsserver
<4> hm, forums.inprise.com maybe
<5> close enough
<0> nobody has experience with those two windows api functions?
<4> I still have problems downloading a p***word protected file with TIdHTTP, its sometimes only partially downloaded, http://rafb.net/paste/results/MvreYR55.html
<4> sometimes a 0 byte file, for instance :)
<0> ok, i guess i'll ask another question then... which program to build an installer would you guys recommend?
<0> installshield seems too expensive
<6> jono`: Inno Setup.
<6> jono`: what problem are you having with the api functions?
<0> ahh cool! thanks. i was looking for freeware ones
<6> jono: in my experience... they only work with mdi child windows.
<0> oh, it's the CascadeWindows and TileWindows functions. you send it an array of window handles and it does the rest. i'm trying to do it with forms i opened from a DLL and it's just not doing it
<0> it seems to work with regular windows though
<6> are you calling the functions from the DLL?
<6> or from your app?
<0> from the main app
<6> try writing a function in your dll
<0> hmmm ok. what if the windows can be from different DLLs though? :)
<6> do you have a sharedmem unit installed in your app and dlls?
<6> and are these delphi dlls or other?
<0> i'm using ShareMem, and they are delphi dlls
<6> is sharemem the first item in your uses list for your project and the DLLs?
<0> yep
<0> in the project source, right?
<6> k. I think the problem comes from your app and dll have different memory spaces...
<6> yes. the .dpr
<0> hmmm ok
<0> one thing though is that the functions can tile any window that you have a handle of
<0> but i guess it might be the parenting that's a problem?
<6> do all of these windows have another window as a parent?
<0> i create them like MyForm := TMyForm.Create(Application)
<0> i was using .Create(nil) but it was causing some problems
<6> that sets the owner... not the parent.
<0> oh, ok
<0> i'm guessing the main application is the parent?
<6> hmmm. I'm not sure if that would work... its my experience that the parent has to be a container cl***... like TForm, TPanel, TFrame, TMdiForm...etc...
<6> go ahead and try it...
<0> yeah it doesn't like that
<0> maybe application.mainform though
<0> still not doing it
<0> the weird thing is it cascades my mIRC window
<6> sounds like invalid handles
<0> hmmm
<0> i actually made a little test application that isolates this particular problem... i'm not asking you to do anything, but thought i'd just throgh that out... ;)
<0> throw
<0> maybe i could find some code that duplicates the cascading function
<6> la.
<0> http://www.break.com/index/tv_japan_slapped_in_the_balls.html
<0> why can't we have gameshows like this in america?
<6> because we are civilised?
<0> heheh
<0> yeah probably
<0> although shows like Jack*** don't support that theory
<6> only jack***es watch shows like that.
<6> its become a 'joke' to watch people in pain.
<7> or bored people.
<6> and it saddens me.
<0> you don't think stapling ones scrotum to the side of their own leg is humorous?
<6> no.
<0> well you don't even have a scrotum now, do you? :)
<6> still not funny
<0> yeah i guess not haha
<6> should make you cross your legs and moan in sympathy.
<0> something about it is hillarious to me
<6> we have lost our empathy.
<6> we love to watch others fail. I think its the attraction of the reality tv...
<6> we don't care who wins... we wanna see who loses the biggest.
<6> we... we = you... not me.
<0> hehe
<5> ...
<2> we... we = you and me :)
<0> yeah but, on shows like Jack***, they're rich
<0> and i root for them
<6> I've got to the point where if there isn't a movie on... I turn the tv off.
<0> i love that show Viva la Bam. watching him saw the top off his new laborghini
<5> people will do anything to make money
<5> even chopping bits of themself off
<2> 3d games are much more fun.
<0> i prefer programming over video games :)
<5> ditto
<5> I always have this craving to be constructive
<6> I never could get into video games...
<5> I do play solitaire sometimes though :P
<0> i played Leisure Suit Larry a couple times
<6> othello is good.
<6> go is better
<6> battlechess is fun.
<6> there are no turns in battlechess... but every piece you move has a 5 second timer before you can move it again...
<5> that must be intense
<5> well
<0> if that was sarcastic, it would be funny
<5> I kinda saw that side :P
<6> no its a real computer game
<6> you can play it on line.
<0> ooh i used to play pool at yahoo games
<0> that was fun
<2> it's not the computer AI... it's the person you're pissing off across the other side of the globe in half life. Chess is only fun because you whip someones *** and prove your intelligence :P
<5> pool online would be fun I'd imagine
<6> www.kungfuchess.com
<6> by shizmoo.com
<6> chess isn't really a measure of intelligence...
<6> you can be great at chess but be unable make a PB&J sandwich for yourself...
<6> I knew a boy... about 15... he could do 3d field math (4th year honors math) in his head...
<6> couldn't make Mac&Cheese...
<2> well... that's why he got a girlfriend :)
<2> If I could do everything myself I wouldn't be here :) I'd be living on the moon :)
<0> i'd be living under the ocean
<0> screw space :)
<6> actually.. we were all in our early to mid 20's when he first joined our group at 14...
<6> he was the first of us to get married.
<0> dayna, any idea what he's doing now?
<6> runs a statistical consulting firm.
<2> he got married otherwise he would have starved to death
<0> nice. so he's doing well?
<6> him and his girlfriend are math genii
<6> geniuses
<0> i hate seeing a good mind wasted
<6> I dunno if he's still married.
<6> he met the girl online... she tried to kill herself... he called the cops in her town.
<0> wow
<0> and he married her?
<6> a week later he was making plans to move there...(alaska)
<6> yup
<0> man...
<2> it seems in here head she calculated that her time was up
<0> not if she was doing it online
<2> and he convinced her that her formulae was a little off
<0> if you want to die, you'll do it alone
<2> that she should live
<2> :)
<0> haha
<0> social life / popularity * depression^2 = kill self or not
<2> that he was the missing piece and unless they both morphed into one she could not live without the extra bit ;)
<6> I was suicidal... threw myself in front of a bus...
<2> and that made her u lah lah
<6> got road rash and a brused elbow... *sigh* best laid plans and all that.
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