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<0> Ive worked in a computer store, once there came a guy asking why he couldnt turn his computer on. so we asked him if he had the power cable connected, he asks "do I need one then?"
<1> Rahly you know all Indy's Intercepts' events have ABuffer: TBytes. How on earth am I supposed to know its length :/
<1> I must be missing something
<2> isn't TBytes an array?
<2> Length() ?
<0> Im not expecting it
<1> ahhh is it. neat.
<0> I wasnt expecting this blabber either
<1> TBytes. loooool
<1> lots of little MEs
<2> maybe you should join #C or #winapi, i'm sure they would have banned you by now
<1> w00ter I recommend joining #C ... they know a lot about protocols
<0> wouldnt it be weird if I ask a delphi question in there
<2> but what you are asking isn't specific to delphi
<2> or don't you know, AIM wasn't written in delphi?
<1> yep, going far beyond Delphi



<0> alright so I have this button, if I click on it, I have it set the host, port, use writebuffer and readstring. thats all. so what happens when I click - I get error message 10054 - connection reset
<2> yes
<1> I suppose if he read and understood Internet Protocol RFC that'd give him some understanding
<1> w00ter it simply means the server disconnected you.
<2> because you sent a bad oscar packet, so the aim server said "get the **** outta here you hack bastard"
<0> so, which function in IdTCPClient should I use?
<1> Reflecting on everything we've been trying to tell you, but you're obviously thicker than mud
<2> WriteBuffer()
<0> this didn't work:
<0> s := 'toc_signon "login.oscar.aol.com" "5190" "WouterJ007" "oliebol" "english" "AOLIM:\$Version 1.1\$"';
<0> WriteBuffer(s, SizeOf(s), true);
<2> of course not
<2> thats not the oscar protocol
<1> eek. That's some WEB protocol
<0> well I got it from some page
<2> the server said "you can't talk oscar, go home bitch"
<0> so where do I find the commands that oscar uses?
<2> call AOL and ask them?
<1> w00ter commands would be in hex numbers $0001 $0002 $FACE $POO
<0> I dont need to read up about how oscar works, wouldnt it be enough if I know what commands it uses..
<2> ummm knowing what commands it uses, IS how it works
<0> partly
<1> w00ter no it's extremely complicated. You have to track everything it sends and receives. If you miss something it sent it will kick you out :()
<2> including the hack commands
<1> I feel kinda sorry for him now :)
<0> I dont mind if its complicated, I just need that little push in the back to get started and just login
<2> i loved the ones, where AIM sent a packet that overwrote its buffer, because of an AIM flaw, and they used it to run code to verify the client
<2> that was a nice one
<1> really. sick
<2> yup
<1> they used their own buffer overflow? haha.
<1> that's quite nifty.
<2> yup, killed off a lot of clients
<2> TByte: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~geoffch@ozemail.com.au/security/aim/index.html
<1> I guess there isn't much they can do with regards to implementing the code so it overflows too
<1> they=clone writers
<2> except to catch it
<2> and mimic it in a weird way
<1> yep. or find out what it sends back once it checks
<2> that was random
<1> ah.
<2> it wasn't a static packet
<1> that's really illegal as far as I'm concerned.
<2> including the checksum of the executable
<2> if you think so
<1> sons of bitches
<2> its not, unless it sends personal data, which it did not
<1> Rahly: a simple buffer overflow that is.
<1> it's quite clever, I don't know why I haven't thought of that.. really original
<2> that was like 4-5 years ago
<1> jeez
<1> cute. if I had time I'd probably attempt to create a little experiment of my own.
<2> time to write some grammar
<0> ha, there's an oscar client here http://www.ithilien.tk/
<2> good luck
<2> its over a year old
<0> would that be a problem?
<0> as long as it works Im fine
<2> i said good luck
<1> TBytes weird.
<1> Undeclared identifier



<1> bizare
<1> I think there's a bug, maybe it should be TIdBytes
<1> yep definitely. Event not written properly. should be tidbytes
<1> or perhaps I should have added IdGlobal
<0> if I cant get it to work soon, I'll just be happy with it sending msgs to the chatroom window without using sockets or so
<2> i doubt that
<2> i'm sure it has to use sockets
<2> its not like it'll use osmosis or something
<1> my Delphi 7 IDE is AV'ing so much lately
<1> piece of **** :(
<0> actually I can do it as of right now
<0> simply by
<0> AppActivate('Chat');
<0> SendKeys(PChar(s), True);
<1> you're now a real programmer. you'll have a great job paying high
<1> w00ter that's so crap
<0> I know lol
<0> but it does work
<1> is it manipulating your AIM client?
<0> no
<0> it just puts focus on the window then sends keys
<0> I cant read what other says tho so msgs would be standard strings in an array and randomly chosen
<1> heh do you know the difference at least between sockets and that method?
<0> well sockets would be having a connection with aim
<1> this method is completely not what you described you wanted to do, by pasting us a WriteLn() bit of code. There were no hints on API manipulation
<0> I just want to read what others say and then say something back using that
<1> well that way is very easy... GetWindowText() SetWindowText() 2 functions should do the job
<0> maybe some listener on a port seeing what text comes in could do the trick?
<1> w00ter what??
<0> lol I'm a n00b I know that
<1> text comes in?
<1> where would the text come in from?
<0> only had like 3 months of school yet
<1> you're a big n00b.
<0> only had the basics
<0> I'd say I know quite a lot compared to cl***mates
<0> I had the highest grade for the exam
<0> that you can possibly get
<0> :p
<0> but I know there's LOTS to learn ye
<0> t
<0> impossible to know it all
<0> I'll go look into those 2 functions, thx
<1> just look into whatever that component is doing
<1> look in its code, it's probably getting the HANDLE of a AIM window, and manipulating it's textboxes, buttons etc...
<1> quite easy
<0> its really huge
<1> paste it on PASTEBIN
<1> ill look
<0> http://www.ithilien.tk/
<1> heh imma go to bed
<0> then just click toscarclient link
<1> me listenning to Libertines - Music When The Lights Go Out :P
<0> btw
<0> does the window steal focus on either function?
<1> it may not have to
<0> cuz it can be unpleasant ;)
<1> it could probably send messages to aim window even when it's minimized to system tray and it is likely to respond
<0> why
<0> if I remove the unit
<0> it still keeps trying it
<0> when compiling it sitll goes through it
<1> gotta go
<1> good night
<1> gl
<0> think I solved it
<0> thanks
<0> later
<3> delphi doesn't have cl*** templates. true?
<4> true
<5> hi, how i can read an html source code from internet without download it?
<6> you can't
<5> so..i must download the html??
<7> i'm having some trouble with the CascadeWindows and TileWindows api functions. has anybody used them?


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