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<0> loop*
<1> I
<0> Main Thread -> signals an event causing the 2nd thread to start terminating itself
<1> ve got all of that. I just want to know how you nkow the 2nd thread isn't looping while the main thread is asleep.
<0> i know because well i got breakpoints heh
<2> <OliverWJ> I wish I had a lower I.Q. so that I could enjoy your company.
<2> lol
<0> and also its not terminating till the sleep() is over
<1> I have half a mind to just blame the debugger, because what you're saying doesn't make any sense.
<1> And the Delphi IDE ****s at debuggign mutlithreaded apps.
<3> don't debg w/ the debuger
<3> debug with logs, or messages, or something like Raize Codesite
<0> this happens outside the debugger
<1> Well, how do you know the 2nd thread isn't terminating while the main thread is asleep?
<0> cuz its still up drk after the sleep() is over
<1> And you know that how? :)
<0> just that it only starts unloading after the sleep() heh
<1> hm. I dunno if that's normal or not.
<0> because while it was @ sleep() it didnt do a messagebox() or anything
<0> it only did it AFTER sleep() was over its like im in the same thread
<0> but thats like, impossible
<1> Well, the messagebox in a thread won't work when the main thread is asleep.
<1> Cuase the main thread owns the GDI :p
<0> messagebox was just an example :X/
<0> i could make it write to file or w/e
<4> Drky, only if that window was created in the main thread
<1> I still think you must be doing something weird that's binding the two together. Because,what you're describing makes no sense at all.
<0> i dunno
<0> im like going nuts over it ;p
<0> im gonna try and write an example of it and see what happens.
<5> and this time don't use messageboxes in your threads
<5> using messageboxes in threads only proves you shouldn't do it
<0> ok
<3> wow
<3> i love my bowflex
<3> hmm, looksl ike i lost a couple pounds in my first week.
<3> taht makes me very happy.
<3> hmm, they euthanized Barbaro
<6> Had to happen eventually.
<4> i love boobies
<0> AHA
<0> u see
<0> my stupidity caused everything
<4> lol
<0> ok next time u find something thats like "wow satan has touched my code"
<0> just F8 all the way
<7> hmmm... selling such code to satanists should give more revenue than fixing it ;)
<4> haha!
<4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPmYbP0F4Zw
<3> that's good
<4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbvP7dT3Dx0
<6> Gotta admit, for all his eccentricities and psycho problems, Michael Jackson is a darn good musician.
<4> i think the proper term is was, but thats just me
<6> I'll give you that.
<6> In his prime, he was great.
<4> yeah
<4> woohoo
<4> "Microsoft Retracts Patent"
<6> Oh?
<6> The BlueJay thing?
<4> yeah
<6> Good.
<3> here is an example of vintage Michael, prior to 'Thriller'. I simply LOVE this song.
<3> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaADnQzdyP8
<3> i _thikn_ that was prior to Thriller
<8> What the hell is this?
<3> just watch it.
<8> what was the disney thing michael did back in the 80's
<8> captain ewok or something
<6> Captain EO?
<8> yeah
<8> i wanted to see thats o bad
<6> I remember seeing it at disneyland in like '89.
<6> At the time, I was more impressed with the fact that the movie was 3D than by michael jackson.
<6> But I was 9.
<3> back when he simple SANG, he was brillian.
<9> Morning.
<2> ooh that was an awesome vid
<3> then he got just wierd.
<6> The song is better than the video.
<6> (Can you Feel It, that is)
<3> yeah
<6> As long as he was ok being a black R&B singer, he was good. Then when he decided to be a white woman doing ballads, it went downhill fast.
<2> a friend had it on vinyl .. the disc had all those oils in that swirled as the music played
<4> hehe
<4> "Security researcher Alex Ionescu claims to have successfully byp***ed the much discussed DRM protection in Windows Vista, called 'Protected Media Path' (PMP), which is designed to seriously degrade the playback quality of any video and audio running on systems with hardware components not explicitly approved by Microsoft."
<9> nice timing.
<4> hehe
<9> hrmm
<9> time for some coffee
<10> PiMP
<10> when will they understand and get off their naivity dreamride that they're not going to make anything "unhackable"
<10> unless they go all palladium (ngscb) or whatever
<9> then next weke
<9> week
<9> someone finds and disables the chip
<10> well wasnt the point of all that to run all the processing through it?
<4> ki9a: thats what mod chips are for :-D
<9> Rahly: yeh
<9> ootje: you really think just because an engineer at intel can do something
<9> someone else can't ?
<4> then someone will make it into a PCI card
<4> hong kong will sell lots of pci cards until they are shut down
<4> then the cycle starts again
<10> yes well that's of course given you use hardware byp***es
<10> i was talking software, but sure.
<11> The actual unhackable test would be the XBox 360. Hacking that thing will take some work even with hardware byp***.
<9> heh
<4> most hardware has software, its just easier to solder in a mod chip, than take out a current chip and reprom it
<9> it's like fighting the ocean.
<9> you can never win.
<10> ki9a: they're doing that over in united arab emirates, building those fake islands ;D
<9> ootje: they can try
<4> its human nature to fail until we get it right
<4> even if we must take out half the world to do it
<9> oneof the problem with this stuff
<9> is that you cannot lock somethingf
<9> and include the key with it
<9> and expect it not to be opened.
<4> yup
<4> like little kids with candy
<9> the only thing you can do
<9> as a content provider
<4> you will always find their hands in the cookie jar
<10> what keys are they including, so to say?
<9> is make sure it's feels better for the user
<9> to not try to get into the cookie jar
<9> ootje: well the drm'd videos they're encrypted
<9> but the user has the key
<10> oh yeah sure
<10> unless you implement the decryption in a chip on the playback device as close to the output as possible :p but they you have analog copies :p
<9> you'd have to do:
<9> * storage of keys
<9> * decryption
<9> * decoding (mpeg decoding)
<9> * transfer to the graphics card
<9> all from 1 chip
<4> another is to require internet, but expecting a user to have that is insane
<9> and then you still have the graphics card to be compromized
<10> oh well.. i'll fight the cylons instead *bsg*
<4> and if your nets down, you can't watch your movie, which would be retared
<4> *retarded
<9> Rahly: you'd still have the key :)
<9> even if for a short while
<4> as long as you have devices that will play unencrypted content, then you will have this problem
<9> they could do one thing though
<9> it would require full control over all hardware
<9> (mac!)
<7> and here comes jtag port ;)
<9> if you have full control over everything you could do it
<9> only problem is, putting things like this in hardware is expensive
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