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<0> Rahly: :)
<0> Rahly: I don't like NiN though
<1> Need electroshock therapy?
<2> <--- master electrician
<3> :
<3> I got a switch here
<3> it saus 110 volt
<3> but I use 220 volt
<3> so I opened it
<3> and found an internal adapter converting to 9 volt AC
<3> why ac ?
<3> how can O
<3> I tried to give it 9 v DC and it still work
<3> is giving it DC instead of AC will it mess it up ?
<2> it it takes ac it will take dc too
<3> hmm ok



<4> lol
<4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53aIkFSFVxM
<3> so it wont destroy it
<2> you gotta got thru rectifier filter
<1> joepezT What kind of device? In general you won't mess anything up, but I can't 100% guarantee it.
<3> I gave it dc, and it seemed to initialize the switch ok
<3> I just heard some high frequenzy sound but i geuss lots of device emit this kind of sound sometimes
<2> dc will work all the time if it has full wave rectifer
<3> how much does a filter like this cost ?
<1> joepezT The summary of what's happening is that the device uses DC internally. It has a power supply that can convert AC to DC, but since you supply it with DC already it goes straight through the rectifier.
<3> ah ok
<1> note that going the other way - using DC on something that requires AC will generally fry things.
<2> $3-4
<1> A lot of electric motors are like that.
<5> how can i know when firefox has finished to load a page?
<2> there a diff between electric and electronic
<1> Is that a question?
<3> ok
<3> so my device
<3> inputs 110volts AC 60hz
<3> outputs 9volt AC 1.1A
<3> I gave it 9 volt 800ma seem to work
<1> For computer type devices you're probably ok doing this.
<6> hey any of u guys have any experience with scrap files, particularly extractin **** out of em? :)
<3> ok
<1> However as I noted before, if there are motors involved switching AC and DC will fry things.
<1> kreeme - get a hex editor and page through it.
<1> http://www.ieee.org/organizations/eab/faqs1.htm
<6> alreayd did; not sure if i can reliably tell where the real file begins and ends though
<3> thanks mjolnir
<3> I will drill a hole in the chasis device and mount a input jack to i t:)
<1> joepezT Can you find a jack to match what it currently uses?
<3> nah
<3> but we have some store some where up in the street here selling lots of weird sockets
<3> I just drill a hole and mount it
<3> and soldering the other end
<1> Where do you live? Radio Shack usually has the right plug.
<3> it seemed not to matter if I mixed + or -
<3> Norway
<1> If you're in the USA
<1> joepezT Correct. That's because of the conversion. Did anyone ever teach you the fundamentals of direct and alternating current?
<3> ok
<3> I am generally not any electrician.. got some very basic understanding.. I know I am not supposed to short wires and stuff :)
<3> and giving oposite polarity to a device is not good either
<7> DaynaGirl thx for ur bpx hint works fine
<1> Ok, with alternating current at 9 volts, it means that the voltage varies between 9 volts and -9 volts
<3> -9 ? oh
<3> scary
<8> _seibXa__: pls don't abreviate words down to unintelligible crap. what the **** is a bpx?
<7> breakpoint
<7> bpx=breakpoint on execution
<7> is this unintelligible? ;)
<3> you don't pay per char on IRC you know =9
<8> well then say that next time.
<7> thought this is a familar abbrevation for coders ;)
<8> works like thx, ur, 4, etc... are likely to get you banned around here.
<1> Since the unit you have uses +5 volts internally and doesn't like voltages changing, the power input takes the input voltage and first converts it all to voltages between 0 and 9 volts. Then it filters things out until it gets the 5 volts the interal circuits want.
<8> words like...
<3> Mjolnir, allright :)
<7> i am not coming from usa. ;)
<3> great to have people around knowing stuff liike this :)



<1> That's why you can wire the DC in any way you want - the AC has to convert both 9 volts and -9 volts.
<1> Can you read circuit diagrams?
<1> Here's an explanation - http://www.mines.edu/Academic/courses/physics/phgn215/lab3/lect6/sld001.htm
<9> b.o.r.i.n.g
<1> WraithY that wasn't for you...
<9> goatse.cx
<9> oh good
<10> pretty basic stuff
<1> Yeah, it's a matter of finding something at whatever level of knowledge someone has.
<3> ok
<4> this was a funny episode
<4> "There is something I have to get off my chest." "Is it your shirt? Please tell me no."
<9> wow - Norway has declared iTunes illegal
<9> Apple must change by Oct 1 or the iTunes store will be banned
<4> lol
<9> unfortunately, I think it will have the opposite effect of their intention and Apple will either allow norwegians to use one of the other countries stores, or the Norwegians will simply have to shop elsewhere
<9> and frankly, elsewhere includes DRM as well
<1> What's their problem?
<9> http://www.buzzbums.com/buzz/norway-declares-itunes-illegal
<11> Mornin' folks.
<4> hey vibes
<11> Hi Rahly
<1> HEy vibes
<4> i made a small design flaw in one of my programs, trying to fix it
<1> Vibes - have you seen www.animusic.com?
<11> Don't think so.
<11> AFK a bit, will check it out shortly.
<1> Ok
<12> hmm
<12> i have a weird problem.. i create a thread which loops around a WaitForMultipleObjects()
<12> when i want to destroy it i signal one of the events from the main thread.
<12> but it seems when i use waitforsingleobject to wait for the thread to die it stalls everything (including the other thread)
<12> now if i dont do a waitforsingle after i signal the event then it triggers properly
<12> any ideas? o_O
<12> its like waitforsingleobject pause's both my threads :o
<4> running it in the ide?
<11> ok, back.
<11> Ah, yes I have seen animusic. Cool stuff.
<12> ye in the IDE
<12> maybe thats it
<12> altho i really doubt it..
<4> try running outside it?
<12> same
<12> does the same with Sleep() btw
<4> well sleep is thread safe
<4> it doesn't affect other threads
<13> i woul dhope so
<12> then its supposed to work
<12> i set it so when the thread ends it messagebox's
<12> or something
<12> basically the entire prog stalls on Sleep() and the other thread is like not doing anything
<12> or just not returning from WaitForMultiple()
<4> do you have it set for INFINITE ?
<12> nah its on 100ms
<12> it should keep going to WAIT_Timeout and it does, until i do the sleep() thingy...
<14> messagebox in a thread is deadly
<12> its like u cant sleep() and waitformultiple in the same process? lol impossible
<15> Don't messagebox in a thread, just fire a message back to the main thread saying "I'm done!"
<12> thing is drk
<12> the thread stops responding until the sleep() is over
<15> That would make sense.
<15> That's what sleep does.
<12> im talking about the 2nd thread drk
<15> The thread with the sleep in it?
<12> the main will sleep for 5seconds, meanwhile the 2nd thread wont do anything
<15> That doesn't make any sense. You've messed up somewhere.
<13> lower the ms that it sleeps
<12> well.. i lower to 3seconds it will still wait 3 seconds it(the 2nd thread) will still wait 3 seconds before doing anything
<13> why are you sleeping for 3 seconds?
<12> to test it
<15> How do you know both threads are stopping?
<12> ok.. ill try and explain
<12> 2nd Thread -> is on a look with WaitForMultipleObject
<12> loop*


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