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<0> Blade^: "Rose of England" as a Queen, which one would that be?
<1> Blade^: they still spoke french :)
<2> I'd say Elizebeth the First
<0> is that the one that kicked the french out ?
<2> no shes the one that sank the spanish
<1> had the spanish sunk
<1> I don't think she did it herself :)
<0> ah her
<0> the first protestant queen ?
<3> PMS must have been worse in those days..
<0> her sister (catholic) locked her up in the tower of london for being protestant didn't she?
<2> ki9a: i think so
<2> yeh, prolly why she killed catholics
<1> ki9a: I think that half the queens of england have been locked up in the tower of londen at some point
<0> heh
<2> mith@ only before Elizebeth
<0> Blade^: they tried to ***asinate her
<0> In 1569, Elizabeth faced a major uprising, known as the Northern Rebellion, instigated by Thomas Howard, 4th Duke of Norfolk, Charles Neville, 6th Earl of Westmorland and Thomas Percy, 7th Earl of Northumberland. Pope Pius V aided the Catholic Rebellion by excommunicating Elizabeth and declaring her deposed in a papal bull. The Bull of Deposition, Regnans in Excelsis, was only issued in 1570, arriving after the Rebellion had been put down. A
<1> psh
<1> the popes back then were excommunicating everybody
<1> even themselves
<2> it gets worse with Charles I and II and Cromwell
<2> mith: it was funnier when the French moved it to France :P
<1> Elizabeth the first is the one in Blackadder the second, right ?
<2> yes
<2> thats the timeframe
<2> :)
<0> I really need to watch that
<1> blade: yeah, that's when I mean. Then the pope in avignon excomunicated the one in .. uhm ... Istanbul I think, and vice versa
<2> mith: the papal even had their own state once
<1> ehhh
<1> they still do
<0> heh
<2> well yes
<2> but they had a bigger one
<2> :)
<2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_States
<0> it's not quite as much now :)
<0> it ends pretty much at the edge of the st peters.
<2> yeh
<2> but they wanted power, now they just p*** around a donation tray
<2> :)
<1> I've been there
<0> st peters?
<1> blade: oh they still got power
<0> same here
<1> dunno about St peters, but the vatican
<2> mith: hah, they think they have, touching up boys isn't power :)
<1> You'd be amazed at how much power the catholic church has
<0> depends on where
<1> just look at latin america, africa or the US
<0> they have almost no power on NL
<2> mith: ahh true
<0> not sure about belgium
<2> mith: keeping africa in aids!
<1> ki9a: I doubt they'd want it anyway :)
<1> blade: for instance
<2> but thats only the uneducated m***es ;)
<1> I'll bet you anything that if the pope excomunicated the leader foa latin american country, there would be a revolution the next day
<2> depends
<0> Mithandir: well As we all know, belgium, germany, netherlands are the center of the world
<0> :)
<2> if it was Venezuela or Cuba i doubt it
<2> :)
<1> Cuba is a tricky one I'll grant you
<0> the guy is on his last gr*** anyway
<0> well both of them
<1> Venezualla is pretty much on the edge of revolution constantly so you'd hardly notice
<0> the pope of the cuba guy
<1> well, they say Castro will live to be 150
<2> yeh
<2> and he's groomed his nephew
<0> and they say the earth was created in 7 days
<1> or at least his chief physisian, standing right next to him with the firing squad ready, says so
<2> ki9a: 6 actually
<2> ki9a: the seventh is a day of rest, you should know that your shops close!
<0> rest day is part of it
<2> still, if we worshipped that line 4004BC is when the earth came about
<2> :)
<0> well it just means the great pyramid was part of the 7 days :)
<1> Blade: there's people in the US advcoating that this fact is taught in science cl***es
<2> yeh
<2> its silly really
<0> not just the US
<1> true
<0> there are people here too
<0> they just don't get listened too
<0> last "book day"
<0> theme was "Witches"
<0> and half of groningen weren't allowed to go to school
<0> by their parents
<1> heh
<2> i remember when they tried to ban HP from schools
<2> for being occultish
<1> got a friend in gronigen who draws faeries etc for a living :P
<0> they do that every monday.
<0> It's on the most challenged book lists in the US too
<1> Rushdie must have a chuckle about that :)
<0> who?
<2> heh
<2> salman rushdie
<1> the guy who has been declared jihad on
<2> he earned himself a fatwa for writing some nice stuff
<1> because of his satan's verses
<2> about the prophet
<2> although, i beleive it's been lifted now
<2> but u dont see much of him either way
<1> and back then all peopel in the US said how that kinda stuff would never happen in the US :P
<0> hah
<1> Blade^: lifted by some Imam's, not by all
<2> yeh, might as well hide forever
<0> well I think the US must be the worst
<1> let's just say he can't get travel insurance to iran
<0> hah
<2> sharia law is the worst
<2> like in nigeria
<2> where they stone people for adultery
<2> which is about right, i hate adultery
<0> heh. ever heard of the 3 strike laws in the US?
<2> you're muslim you've ordered a load of fertilizer and you've been to afghanistan in the past year?
<0> nah. depending on the state you are in
<0> 3 more light or a bit violent offences
<0> each not much, but the 3rd onecan get you 50 years
<2> daedo!
<0> Blade^: but didn't you guys remove the laws against witchcraft like a few years ago ?
<2> dunno
<1> there's silly laws in everycountry
<0> oh yeah
<2> yeh
<1> http://www.dumblaws.com/
<2> we have something like you can kill a welshman in full dress on a given sunday in may
<2> or something like that
<2> heh
<2> "Since 1313, MPs are not allowed to don armor in Parliament."
<1> yeah
<1> was just about to pste that :)
<2> that'd make it more fun
<2> :)
<2> "London Hackney Carriages (taxis/cabs) must carry a bale of hay and a sack of oats."
<1> I'd tune in for wednesday's PM's questions :P
<2> haha
<2> "It is illegal for a lady to eat chocolates on a public conveyance."
<1> Any person found breaking a boiled egg at the sharp end will be sentenced to 24 hours in the village stocks (enacted by Edward VI).
<2> oh here's the best one
<2> "Picking up abandoned baggage is an act of terrorism."
<1> that one I can understand
<2> mith: how lilliputian
<1> heh: Chelsea Pensioners may not be impersonated
<2> heh
<0> It is legal to smoke pot, buy it, or have less than 5 grams with you.
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