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<0> big vcl depended files
<0> big exe
<1> doesnt seem to make my exe's terribly big
<0> by smallest exe with VCL is 181 kb
<2> yup
<0> ,D
<2> 181kb exe is nothing in size these days
<2> its just idiots on dialup who complain
<3> its still not an excuse to write bloated code, but still :)
<0> yes, I know, nonVCL does smaller files
<2> its silly not to use the vcl in delphi, since the whole ide pretty much revolves around it
<0> mhh, well and the main argument for my d3 is .. I have got a licence for it
<1> yeah i mean back when i was coding pure asm i cared about size :)
<0> oko, d6 personal was free, too
<3> meh, no {$..} directives to enable/disable runtime packages .. only via the .cfg ?
<3> i guess thats for the linker, not the compilter, but ..
<3> compiler
<4> ootje :))
<3> hey you :)
<4> heyehy
<4> 'sup
<3> just trying to ease my debug building :P
<4> ooh
<4> =)
<4> nice
<4> seems like vacation is over here
<3> it's starting to look like the only sane solution is creating two projects :P
<3> here-where?
<4> at work :P
<3> right. i have one week left
<4> aha
<3> just messing about with my personal projects now
<4> oh
<4> :)
<5> ki9a taking the day off eh?
<5> seems he's usually up by now..
<1> any of you mother****ers hardcore enough to compete in #asm's newest competition? 1.44mb bootable game
<5> the prizes better be good..
<5> probably lookng at months of work..
<1> you've got until oct 1st
<5> NBA jam was coded entirely in asm..
<5> impressive feat..
<1> was it really? hmm
<5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nba_jam
<6> Morning.
<1> mornin govna
<5> hi ki9a..
<6> hey joe. kreeme
<7> any news about delphi being sold ?
<6> Nope.
<6> lots of noise
<6> no news.
<6> it's the borland way of doing business
<5> i thought the news was.. it's not being, it's being bought internally now..?
<5> bought internally / not selling
<6> yeah right
<5> that's untrue?
<6> the last news was that they're looking for private investors.
<5> well, this is what Blade said anyways.. possible others too here a couple of weeks ago..
<5> possibly^
<7> arend the way i see it they just want to get rid of it.....
<6> well they slightly adjust the news every once in a while.
<6> first it was going to be sold
<6> later it was going be internally bought
<6> now they're looking for privat investors to invest in a sub part of borland
<7> sub part ?
<3> they'll end up auctioning it away on eBay
<7> it seems that way :))))
<6> given that they want 100+ mln for products that are mostly out of date
<7> has anyone tryed moving on...?
<6> Interbase (firebird is much farther)
<6> JBuilder (eclipse)
<6> C++Builder (you really want me to comment on this one?)
<6> C#Builder (sigh)
<6> Delphi is oke
<5> black_col: moving on where?
<7> sorry for saying this...... m$
<1> yeah i thought the same thing
<2> turbopascal? :P
<7> :)) turbo vision
<5> many have.. but i don't think anything else would be as RAD for myself..
<5> so i'm staying put..
<7> i took a look at m$ c#
<6> c++builder is so out of date
<1> ugh - it really makes me anxious honestly, not knowing the future of delphi
<6> it's not even funny
<5> use Chrome.. :)
<2> lazarus, sharpdevelop :P
<6> heh
<3> c#.net is ok imho, but as i've said countless times, i miss VCL and the tons of free components available for delphi very quick
<5> :D
<1> c++ builder i could care less about. but i want delphi to be around. my biggest delphi app takes milliseconds to compile. my simplest .net program takes minutes
<6> ootje: We should build our own community for C# :)
<1> programming in delphi is so fast.
<6> we need a torry for C#
<7> :)
<3> yes, thats why i was talking about that stuff some time ago, ki9a :p
<6> kreeme: C# really takes long to compile for you ?
<1> ki9a: actually - really the vb stuff does.
<1> C# its not minutes, but its way noticably slower than delphi
<6> well I avoid VB.Net at all cost
<1> ugh i wish i could
<6> but I find C# quite fast.
<5> ootje: yeah, who has the time to reinvent the wheel..
<2> C :P
<6> ootje: what's stopping you? :)
<7> not to forget... "reusable" code
<6> that said, there's a lot of free stuff to find
<6> for C#
<5> black_col: depends also if you're wanting to code .NET or not..
<3> ki9a: well i would have done it in php, since thats my preferred web weapon, but you were anal in not wanting to help unless it was asp.net :P
<7> !!!!!!! NO .NET !!!!!
<6> Hrmm
<5> then why are you looking at c# ?
<6> I was pretty sure we made up the rules here
<6> :)
<2> is C# .net?
<6> yes
<7> yea..
<6> C# implies .net
<2> :\
<1> yeah they need to make a resource page for delphi guys to learn C# / .net its such a slow transition. something that takes 10 seconds in delphi to develop is so slow to develop in .net
<3> non-.net c# is kinda pointless imho
<3> and, really, imho also, c# is the only thing that makes sense for .net
<6> pff
<6> chrome
<3> :P
<1> ugh ottje can u talk to my boss? :)
<3> well i mean, if you know some other language, and want to learn .net, learn c#
<3> not vb.net or whatever
<1> i hate vb.net
<3> it will just cause a sauce of old code and whatever not pure .net
<1> its all i'm aloud to code in..
<7> i hate vb in general..:))))
<1> ugh me too. its so gross.
<1> its so un-elite and non-cool
<3> i imagine that basic made sense some place in time, but today it does not
<1> this is ****in funny tho: http://break.com/index/pug_bowling.html
<3> argh. delphi6 ide entered idiot mode again.. when backspace and marking text etc doesnt work any more :P
<1> if i had a billion dollars i would buy delphi
<6> If I had a nillion dollars
<6> I wouldn't be programming.
<2> ditto
<1> i would - i just wouldn't program the **** i do now.
<3> well i would be, but not to earn more money :P
<1> yeah.
<8> i would buy some chicks
<8> ;)
<8> hrhr
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