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<0> kinda like dataabstract only dataabstract is n-teir
<0> dbexpress is CS
<1> ki9a: Right, but I want it to be user editable with the nice forums at runtime :)
<2> daedo: it doesn't add anything
<3> o, write your own form.
<2> daedo: opposed to DA
<2> daedo: what does it add over just using TADOConnection?
<1> it also appears that you can't include a MSSQLLib or some such with a dbexpress application, and you have to include the dll ><
<2> daedo: the only thing it has besides that is that you can switch connections rather easily since it's all one interface
<2> but you can theoretically also do that with all TDataset descendents.
<0> ki9a: i've really never used it at all
<1> Well, since I only have to make this support two databases, I'll use ADO stuff for SQL Server, and CoreLab's components for oracle.
<2> daedo: I used it once.
<0> just going on what little i've seen at BorCon
<2> daedo: back in d6/k3
<2> daedo: for mysql it closed/opend the connection each time
<2> losing the last insert id
<3> ADO connects fine to Oracle as well.
<2> if you want oracle
<2> use crlabs
<2> it's great
<2> or so I Heard
<2> I have yet to install oracle.
<2> I compiled a DA driver for it once though :)
<3> DOA is a great set of delphi components for oracle access.
<3> But, it only does Oraclew.
<3> But ... if Oracle is all you do, its hard to beat.
<1> Well, I'll just abstract it out, to use either ADO if you want to connect to sql server, or crlab (core lab) components if you want to connect to oracle.
<2> buy DataAbstract
<2> :)
<1> eh?
<2> you can do it multitier then
<1> Hrmm.
<1> Have a quick link? Or do I have to look it up? :P
<2> http://remobjects.com?da
<2> sure
<1> you used that before ki9a?
<2> way too often
<1> I take it, that you highly reccomend it then :)
<2> yes. But I'm a bit biased
<2> tiny bit.
<1> heh. I'll have to give it a whirl then.
<1> I'm in the process of abstracting out all of our database serializable / persistent objects...
<1> so that each time a programmer inherits from this cl***, they don't have to implement any code to save the object into the database.
<1> it also works through an object metalayer which is configured in a semi-hardcoded database table, which says which objects fields go where.
<4> you might also have a look at ECO and read about object persistance frameworks, there's a lot of discussions about OPF in b.p.d.oodesign newsgroup
<1> TOndrej: Thanks, I'll take a look at that. I appreciate the insight.
<4> a lot of people seem to roll their own. Cause there is no perfect solution that fits all cases, I guess..
<4> np
<1> Well, I was going to roll my own, but I didn't even realize there was anything else out there. I'll most likely model mine after something else out there.
<5> anybody using a nas of 40 tb ?
<1> ki9a, does RemObjects' DataAbstract support ECO?
<2> they're quite different.
<1> So, is DataAbstract more or less another sort of Object Persistence Framework?
<2> DA is a multi-tier solution for Delphi and .NET.
<2> it's not like eco (which is for Delphi for .NET or C# under BDS only)
<1> damnit.
<1> It seems I'm looking for an ECO sort of solution for Delphi win32.
<2> you can always try DA and see if it fits your neesd. There's a trial
<1> I've come up with a framework that'll work... its just not written yet ;) -- so I'm still more or less in the research stage.
<6> Eltharion: IMO, ECO is one of the compelling reasons to do .NET. Is there a reason you can't use .NET for this project?
<6> (And if you must do it in win32, then your best bet is probably Delphi 7+ModelMaker+Bold)
<1> I must do it in win32.... sadly
<6> Why?
<7> wtf is up with dc++
<7> its like u cant get ANYTHING from it anymore
<1> well, unless you know of a good way to port an application that has approximately 10M lines of code... to .NET easily (and that also heavily uses the ScktComp unit)... and also heavily uses GetMem and FreeMem and New() with heavy pointer usage...
<1> let me know.
<6> Well, Delphi w32 to Delphi .NET is going to be the easiest conversion. :)
<6> Can you layer it? Make a .NET layer using ECO that interacts with your win32 code?
<1> Right, it was going well, until I hit the scktcomp unit. There is no scktcomp for delphi .net
<1> we use scktcomp HEAVILY.
<1> ><
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