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<0> hey vibes
<1> hi
<0> vibes did you ever get all the refactoring stuff in castalia (sp?) working well in d7?
<2> nuttin.
<2> I came to the park to get some work done in the fresh air.
<0> lol
<1> It all works marvelously for me.
<0> in d7?
<1> There are a few people that have problems with it that I can't reproduce.
<0> specifically, do Extract Method & rename variable (within some scope) work for you?
<1> Yes.
<1> I would't ship them if they didn't.
<0> ok. just wanted to make sure - I remember there were some issues a while back (like 6 months) when I tried
<0> what's the website again? two???something??.com ?
<3> took 2 hours to get out here... instead of the 30 minutes I was expecting
<1> twodesk.com
<3> twodesk.com
<3> waht he said
<0> may finally become a customer. have some refactoring to do
<0> cleanup my messy, messy old code
<1> Grab the trial and try it out.
<0> yeah. will do
<3> k. later people.
<0> cu dayna
<0> vibes: hows the component library going? I see you're still releasing updates to it
<0> tj9yyrtdj46bh3jqfv637fbjy
<0> ****
<0> ignore that. wrong window
<1> protektor: It's alive, but I haven't done any active development on it in a while. The last update was just an update to make it work in D2006.
<0> ah ok
<1> Business wise, I've more than made my investment back, so we'll see what happens now.
<1> The 3p component market is very weak right now, because there's a lot of FUD regarding Delphi's future.
<0> most definately
<1> When the DevCo split becomes real, things will pick up.
<0> I don't imagine it would be affecting castalia's sales though
<1> Sales are down, but not as bad as it could be.
<0> yeah but that's probably because of the decline in delphi in general though.
<1> Well, the downturn coincides pretty dramatically with the DevCo split announcement.
<0> oh wow
<0> very interesting
<4> hey protie
<0> hiya rahyl
<0> Rahly even
<5> PROOOOOO
<0> fuzyzyzyzzy
<0> how's it?
<6> btw, I got my final ever uni grades today.. I did get high distinctions for maths and account.. so my graduating GPA is offically 6.7 :)
<0> woot
<1> FuzyLogic: Great. Congratulations.
<6> Vibes^, thanks :)
<0> now you have proof that you are smrat
<0> ;)
<6> no, I have proof I can learn the uni system and work it to my advantage ;)
<1> Yup, that's about all a diploma really tells you.
<6> and it says I can put up with crap for a long time :)
<0> hmm vibes this seems to have issues with IFDEF's surrounding blocks o code
<0> ie: {$IF not DEFINED(BUILD_SOHO_TRIAL) and not DEFINED(BUILD_SOHO) and not Defined(BUILD_SBIZ_TRIAL) and not Defined(BUILD_SBIZ) and not DEFINED(BUILD_PRO_TRIAL) and not DEFINED(BUILD_PRO) and not DEFINED(BUILD_ENTERPRISE) and not DEFINED(BUILD_ENTERPRISE_TRIAL)}
<0> Error: Product edition compiler directive missing
<0> {$IFEND}
<0> one of those directives is set but i get popup messages in every file I open with that contents
<1> Did you set it in the Castalia options?
<6> surely you could simplify that {$IF..} :)
<0> vibes: hm. didn't know you had to
<1> Well, Castalia doesn't do {$INC } files.
<6> new stargate out
<1> If it's defined explicitly in the unit, then there's a problem.
<0> ? paste
<7> Pastebin: http://www.vkarlsen.no/pastebin
<0> http://www.vkarlsen.no/pastebin/default.asp?id=7317
<0> it's not an $INC, it's in the .pas fil
<0> file
<1> Actually, now that I think about it, that conditional isn't going to work.
<0> damn
<1> Not for Castalia anyway. Castalia won't parse the DEFINED(..) construct. Sorry.
<0> will it affect refactoring?
<1> If what you want to refactor is inside the conditional, yes.
<0> ok
<0> I'm seriously considering moving PSTCompactor to .net
<0> seeeeeriously
<1> Why?
<0> sick of maintaining it in delphi
<0> can't remember enough of the delphi syntax
<0> there are some other reasons too
<0> you may or may not have heard thru others in the channel but it looks like I'm going to be selling my company
<1> I heard something to that effect.
<0> there will be a period where I'll be expected to do maintenance on it
<0> so, I want to minimize the pain for me to do that
<0> and ensure that it's in a language they can find devs for easily
<1> They can find Delphi devs easily.
<1> There are lots of people complaining about the lack of jobs.. create a couple.
<0> they are a C#/C++ coding house
<1> :)
<1> So you're going to scrap years of work and start over in C#?
<0> pretty much
<1> Frankly, I think that's a very bad idea.
<0> possibly
<0> I'm going to test porting a few core libs this weekend
<0> and see how it goes
<1> I think it would be moving to an inferior platform for no real business benefit.
<0> as I understand it, they plan to rip PSTC appart and just use certain components from it
<0> so either way, I'm going to be rewriting bits.
<6> protektor, recoding == lots of unpaid hours.. maintanence may be painful, but is significantly LESS time
<6> what is your time worth to you?
<0> worth lots but if the conversion is relatively straight forward then it may be less effort in the long run
<6> wont they PAY you to convert it to C#?
<6> wouldnt that be smarter?
<0> we haven't discussed that yet
<0> I guess this is in part also an investigation for me as to whether it's possible
<1> Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.
<6> why anybody would buy software is beyond me.. I think it'd be smarter and cheaper just to code it yourself
<6> cheaper as in, buying components
<0> Vibes^: a core portion which is the IP everybody really wants will remain in delphi or move ot c++
<6> mmm 80 min of pleasure soon
<4> lol
<4> 80? don't you mean 40?
<6> sga + sg1 = 40 + 40 = 80
<2> hi honeys I'm home.
<2> well the park was a bust tonight <pout>
<2> was nice to get out...
<2> but mom is like I need to go to costco and I want a coffee...
<2> then takes an hour to get ready...
<0> hm there's a lot more code in my app than I had remembered
<2> by the time we got there it was late...
<0> maybe no port after all
<2> did they respond to your letter yet?
<0> yeah. this morning
<0> some answers, some more questions
<2> did they make an offer?
<0> heh. no, they pushed it back to me again to make the first suggestion of price
<0> I suspect they are going to make a first low offer because they've asked for the balance sheet
<2> sell it cheap... demand royalties :-)
<0> tempted
<2> oh speaking of your software.
<0> please, call it crapware ;)
<2> how did you learn how to hook your app into outlook?
<2> I wanna write a plug-in...
<0> hm
<0> I honestly don't remember how I got started
<0> but if I were to do it again, I can tell you what I'd do
<2> yes?
<0> what kind of plugin? you most likely just want to use an existing framework like ADX's stuff
<0> it will get you INTO outlook and let you do basic things
<2> a spam filter
<0> what language? .net or delphi?
<0> right
<2> delphi
<0> then you will likely need to use emapi, which is what I use
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