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<0> but yeah, couple of raptors would be nice
<1> now i got an extremely fast pc with 12/2 internet
<1> not too bad for $50 a month either
<2> My next machine will either be a dual CPU or a dual core.
<1> yeah
<1> i have a dual cpu system in the basement
<1> kicks the **** out of mine :P
<1> Tyan mobo, dual opteron dual cores, 8GB of ram
<1> and it was free
<1> see, i make $10 an hour.... very low pay, but great benefits i think it makes up for it
<1> i get 50% off hardware becasue its a business expense :D
<2> You're in high school. That pay is pretty good.
<1> yeah
<1> bought my own pc, 19" lcd, bought my own truck
<1> im doing ok
<2> I can't believe I'm about to tell a "when I was your age" story.



<1> ah
<1> haha
<2> When I was your age, I was the computer guy for a mortgage company. I made a little less than that.
<1> "When I was your age I had to walk in the snow for 2 miles to school"
<2> $9/hr, IIRC
<0> When I was young I loved my VIC-20
<1> ah
<0> It had 20kB! of something
<1> Vibes^: hmm..lemme guess..42?
<2> OUCH
<0> haha
<1> too high?
<1> lol
<2> WAY high
<1> 30?
<2> I'll be 26 on tuesday
<1> oh
<1> your not old wtf
<2> Yeah, that's why I couldn't believe I was telling a "when I was your age" story.
<0> only youngsters in here. The only old man is MrBtrieve
<1> lol
<1> cool
<1> whats youngest person
<0> and Scampi
<0> ki9a is 20 I guess
<2> We don't know everyone's ages, obviously.
<0> of the ones that know programmin
<2> Half the people in here I've never even talked to.
<2> But of the ops, who are the core regulars, ki9a is probably the youngest.
<1> lol
<0> and bobb, don't ask Dayna about her age
<0> she's a chick ;)
<1> k
<1> you know the drag and drop panels
<3> how old do you want me to be?
<1> Project Manager, Tool Palette, Structure
<1> etc
<2> DaynaGirl: 23 and blonde.
<2> Oh, you weren't asking me.
<1> 17 and blonde
<3> I can play that.
<0> Well, when you told us you're 25 I was shocked
<0> I thought you were like 23 max
<3> I'm old.
<3> prairie dust old.
<0> You're a Vet Dayna
<3> and throw momma from the train ugly.
<3> Vet?
<2> lol
<0> hehe
<1> im lost
<1> cant get back into designer
<1> ;()
<0> Vet. Veteran, or Veterinary
<2> bobb: Tabs at the bottom of the editor.
<1> lol thanks
<1> hmm
<1> this is EFnet huh
<1> how come you guys arent ***holes
<1> everyone else on this network is lol
<2> We are, it's just late and we're taking a break.



<1> ah
<1> hmm i actually like this borland
<1> its all visual studio like
<1> i feel kinda comfortable
<2> ozbear is on ***hole duty tonight, and he's not here yet.
<0> yeah we know, VS is all Borland style
<0> I will ask him how Australia did in the world championship
<1> lol i definitly think im going to read that tut you gave me earlier
<1> cant even get a messagebox to show up D:
<1> :D
<2> ShowMessage('Hello, World!');
<1> kick***
<1> everything is single quoted too
<1> gotta get used to that
<2> Now you guys have got me looking at hardware... I knew I'd end up spending money today.
<1> haha
<1> go AMD
<1> forget Intel
<1> :D
<2> No way. Core duo. Yum yum.
<1> lol
<1> shouldnt you waite for core 2 duo
<0> bobb: First thing you need to know is this: SetError(0); your code ShowMessage(SysErrorMessage(GetLastError(retCode)));
<2> Why is that the first thing he needs to know?
<1> you werent kidding when you said these progs are big
<0> Because he will get errors and he will wonder what they mean
<1> 410KB for a button that displays a message box with hello world rofl
<1> its fsat though
<1> program boots like lightning
<1> no lag time like .NET
<1> 2.2MB of ram...
<1> ok time to build a C# prog and compare :D
<0> there are tools for compressing the exes
<2> bobb: Yes, but the growth is small. Base sizes are large, but they don't grow a lot.
<1> nah i dont care bout that
<1> ah ok
<1> makes sense
<1> because they put everything in there to run it huh
<2> My main application is a hundred thousand lines of code and still only about 10MB of executable... in like 12 files.
<1> HelloWorld.exe C# - 20KB | 8.2MB of ram
<2> Heh
<1> HelloWorld.exe Delphi - 410KB | 2.2MB of ram
<0> http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Programming_Languages/Delphi/Q_20853506.html
<1> hmm
<2> bobb: But it's not 20kb.
<1> very good on ram usage
<1> impressive
<1> considering it has a framework, no
<0> well
<2> To make a valid comparison, you have to include the entire .NET framework.
<0> rememebr C# is kinda wrapped
<2> Since you need to consider what it would take to put that application on another computer. With Delphi, you just send your friend that 410kb exe. With C#, you send him the several-megabyte framework and your 20kb C# app.
<1> yeah
<1> 22MB
<1> .NET 2.0 = 22MB, takes about 10-15mins to install on average pc
<0> 22MB is a decent Hello World message in these days
<1> Delphi, 400KB, takes about 1ms to "install" on average pc
<1> :P
<1> i knew i made the right choice switching to this language for hobby
<1> heard good things about it :D
<2> For writing desktop apps, you can't go wrong with Delphi.
<1> thats all i write
<1> i have my microsoft certification in just that, writing windows form applications on .net 2.0 lol
<1> i like that stuff
<1> dont care if its not the hardest stuff in world like C++/C/ASM but you can do cool stuff with it and efficient
<1> i love thecontrols though
<2> Effecient is the key to making money from software.
<1> very neat
<2> Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have a convert.
<2> Let's baptise him!
<4> yay!
<1> :D


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