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<0> Write a seperate app that listens for messages from the service
<0> Or connects to it somehow. Or whatever.
<1> I see.
<2> yeh
<2> most do
<1> Okay then. I shall do one of those.
<3> the reason a service shouldn't have a gui are multiple
<3> first of all, security wise
<3> services generally run as a system user
<3> if you expose a gui through it
<3> that gui will run system too
<3> with some tricks it's easy to get Admin access from a non-admin user then
<3> besides that, the gui would always run under the locally logged on user
<3> you wouldn't be able to control it via terminal servics
<1> So I shouldn't even like display a TrayIcon ?
<3> no



<1> ok
<3> and you have to uncheck "Interactive"
<3> they should never have added that option ihmo
<4> http://www.shacknews.com/docs/press/081406_xna.x
<4> that should prove very cool
<4> ki9a: you see this? http://port25.technet.com/archive/2006/08/11/Let_2700_s-talk-Mono_3A00_--Sam-interviews-Miguel-de-Icaza.aspx
<3> transcript?
<3> I saw there was a video
<3> but I didn'thave time to watch it yet
<4> haven't seen, i downloaded it and just listened in the background
<3> daedo: does he say anything interesting ?
<2> this line has me worried
<2> "By joining a creators club for an annual subscription fee of $99 (U.S.), users will be able to build, test and share their games on Xbox 360"
<3> why does that worry you ?
<2> Well
<2> it sounds like unless you shell out $100 a year
<2> you cant build or test your games
<2> :)
<3> obviously
<3> the XBox will require an MS signed key
<3> just like VS.Net requires that for vs.net plugins.
<3> for some plugins at least.
<3> how do I return only 15 records wiyth mssql?
<3> like limit in mysql
<5> top 15 ?
<5> select top 15 foo from bar order by ding desc
<3> thnx.
<5> np
<3> anyone ever used ADO/delphi with mssql "xml" datatype?
<3> I get a "multi-step exception"
<3> from ado
<4> i have, never got that
<4> been a long time though
<4> ki9a: nothing terribly interesting really
<4> (in the interview)
<3> thought so
<3> daedo: seems d7 doesn't support it at all
<4> oh i did it with uadolib, not tado*
<4> speaking of which, why are you guys deprecating uadolib? :P
<4> i love that unit
<4> gonna have to remember to copy that out before you guys ditch it :D
<3> the DA stuff requires a TDataset descendent
<4> oh you're doing xml stuff for da, i just thought you meant in general
<3> nah I was just testing adventureworks
<3> some tables use XML there.
<3> ie an xml datatype
<4> oooo, the stuff i did was the returning data as xml stuff
<4> sorry, misunderstood
<3> the whole reason we use TDataset is that delphi doesn't have a common interface for dbs
<4> pfft, delphi :P
<4> i'm just glad hydra will give me an easy migration path to .net winforms :)
<3> hehe
<3> Hydra rocks.
<4> that's like a blessing, we tried doing the "take two months to rewrite apps in .net", just didn't work
<4> we've tried it a couple times, end up with a half done app that we have to ditch to go back to delphi
<4> (due to business stuff, not .net limitations)
<4> and yes, hydra is very cool
<4> the stuff it does for services is great
<4> you get the buggies i msged about the dll channel or should i post that on the beta forums? (whatever is easier for you guys)
<3> please do
<4> will do



<3> msgs tend to get lost
<4> ya
<6> um guys why does this query SELECT CMP_EMAIL, MIN(CONTACT_ID) as CONTACT_ID FROM CONTACT GROUP BY CMP_EMAIL; return many rows in the Admin app, and in my proggie returns only 1 row
<3> great; doesn't look like d2006 supports it either.
<6> err got the query to work now components acting weird
<6> um in fact every query only returns 1 row, why !
<2> hmm i have way too much stuff on my server
<2> so much stuff i dont even know what to do with
<2> but i have a nagging feeling i need it
<4> foldersizes.exe!
<6> yes!
<3> should I go out tonight?
<6> no
<3> this whole week
<3> is party week here
<3> but I'm not sure which days I should go
<6> i regret going out when I have stuff to do, can never enjoy myself properly
<3> well that's not a problem
<3> but if it's going to rain this much I'll probably skip it
<2> meh go out
<2> what else is there to do
<2> :)
<7> Carlo!!!!!! oh and bladder butt!!!!!
<3> Jeff!
<3> How are you ?
<7> not to bad
<7> working
<3> that's surprising; )
<7> heeh
<7> er hehe
<3> :)
<3> I'm actually wondering if I should go out
<3> or not tonight.
<7> tough life
<3> yeah
<3> :)
<8> dont go out...you might have fun
<3> yeah thats' what I'm afraid of
<8> in Amsterdam?
<1> If converting my standard application to a Service Application.. Service1.ServiceThread.Handle would be the same as Form1.Handle correct ?
<3> no
<3> first one is a thread handle
<3> second one is a window handle
<8> the clue is in the names
<7> ki9a has no clue
<7> ki9a, did you fly klm?
<3> no
<3> I don't like KLM that much.
<3> Martinair
<3> to Florida
<1> and a Service has no window hm.
<3> nope
<2> it doesnt need one
<2> it doesnt run on the desktop
<3> why do you need one?
<1> I relize that, just trying to see how to convert this
<8> it can interact w/ the desktop
<3> that's bad though
<3> which I recommended earlier to not do
<1> My standard app created a thread that would PostMessage(Form1.Handle...
<1> ki9a: i'm not going to
<1> ki9a: I'm just trying to convert my standard app to a service app
<7> I am flying KLM to Amsterdam and then to Hyderabad
<3> yeh
<2> personalyl i'd recode
<2> than convert
<3> Hylander: ah; was it bad?
<3> first cl*** or economy?
<7> economy, but sitting at the bulkhead, so I get alot more room
<3> ah
<8> get a basic service to run, then add your new logic
<1> bealtine: the basic service does run.. I'm just trying to figure out how to send a message back to the main service app from the spawn'd thread.
<8> PostThreadMessage ?
<9> how'd you get a message dialog popup on top of a savedialog?..


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