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<0> Vibes: Did you look at that site I sent you? Seems right up your alley...
<1> they make patch kits for that.
<1> really easy to do.
<2> SirPsycho: Yeah, checking it out right now, actually.
<2> DaynaGirl: Well, this is actually a little more complex than just a hole in the pipe.
<2> I'm trying not do what I really need to do, because I can't. It involves a gasket and a stripped bolt...
<1> oh gawd. hate those.
<1> they're expensive.
<2> Basically, where the exhaust manifold/header meets the first pipe in the exhaust system, there are three bolts.
<1> *nod* I know what you're talking about.
<0> Gaskets are evil, evil things.
<2> One is stripped, and so the connection can only be tightened with 2 of the bolts. As such, I can't get a gasket to stay in the right place, and so there's a little leak right there under the manifold.
<0> Good night, all. Gotta get some sleep.
<1> and the area is so damn hot... you can't use a liquid gasket filler.
<1> tap3: yes, wait for a while net is a bit slow here.
<2> Yup... That's actually what I've been hunting for, is a high temp liquid gasket, but I don't think they make anything for that far forward in the system.



<1> are: how long?
<1> tap3: plz wait, i m just starting
<1> are: how long do you think it will be until the net speeds up?
<1> tap3: no, net's speed is fine. The appication is starting up.
<1> are = me.
<1> tap3 = person in india.
<2> So, the RIGHT thing to do is drill out the stripped bolt and replace it.
<2> But I can't get to it without taking the engine out.
<1> right.
<2> And I can't take the engine out because I don't have an engine crane.
<1> which is why its so expensive to repair.
<2> Yup.
<1> you can rent them.
<1> if you were really interested.
<1> which i'm guessing you're not.
<2> I don't know that I trust my mechanical skills quite that far.
<2> I would be interested, but not on my car. :)
<2> I would actually really like to have a spare car that I can just screw up, to learn about such things.
<1> interesting thing is... you have to get the engine out to get at the bolt... but you've got to get the bolt out to pull the engine out...
<2> But this is kinda like making drastic changes on a production system... you don't really want to do that.
<2> Oh that won't be a problem. The end that's stripped is a nut end, so it's got nothing holding it in.
<1> unless you plan to cut the exhaust tubing :-)
<1> anyways.
<2> No, it will just slip right out. It's not actually a bolt - it doesn't have a head.
<2> So it just screws into the manifold, and then a nut secures the pipe to it.
<2> Kind of a wierd little device, actually.
<2> But it works.
<1> and usually heat welded tot he manifold.
<2> Until I stripped the nut side taking the nut off when I replaced the pipe. :)
<2> Yup.
<2> So the nut came off, but now there's nothing for it to go back on to.
<1> someone torqued it off?
<2> I did.
<1> did it break off below the plane of the joint?
<2> It's not broken, just stripped. What once was threaded is now nearly smooth.
<1> have you tried retheading it?
<2> How? Can't get a tool to it without pulling the engine.
<1> well... they get tools in there without pulling the engine to attach the pipe...
<2> There isn't enough space in there to get anything more than a wratchet up there.
<1> they make re-threading tools that fit inside socket wrenches.
<2> Really? I've only seen fairly bulky power tools.
<2> hmmm.
<2> But if I could get something that would attach to a standard socket ratchet, I could get it up there and maybe do (or un-do) some damage.
<1> you could also drill out the center of the stud... and screw something into the end of it to hold a spacer in place effectively clamping it down.
<2> Yeah, drilling it out is what I have considered the proper solution, but I can't get a drill up to it.
<2> ...at least not any drill and bit that I own.
<1> *nod* you'd need to rent an air powered drill.
<1> very small... very powerful.
<1> same for the dye set.
<2> Yup
<1> anyways...
<2> You have given me hope on the rethreading though.
<1> my mom is a truck driver...
<2> I might have to tackle that next week.
<1> she taught me (kicking and screaming) how to be self reliant mechanically.
<1> I used to cry because of all the grease on my hands.
<1> no child of hers would be taken by a man... just because they didn't know any better.
<2> lol
<2> Sounds to me like you could give any professional mechanic a run for his money.
<1> nah.
<1> I'm cursed with an engineering mind is all.



<1> my brain flies with alternative ideas.
<1> and coming from a background where money for replacement parts was scarce... and tools = butter knife and high heels... I have lots of alternatives.
<2> :)
<2> I just do miraculous things with jb weld. :P
<1> me too.
<1> fixed my desk most recently.
<2> But I have yet to come up with a way to fix this particular problem with JB weld.
<1> they do make high temp jb weld... but not this high I don't think.
<2> Yeah, the highest I've seen is like 650 degrees.
<1> another thing I've just remembered... is self taping nuts
<2> Does such a thing exist?
<2> They'd have to have like diamond encrusted threads.
<1> jussec.
<1> nah... just be made of tougher material than the bolt they go on.
<3> DaynaGirl: ?
<2> I think my new goal in life is to be rich enough that every time I have car trouble, I can just buy a new car. :P
<3> DaynaGirl: You are a Delphi programmer?
<3> Hey I'm sorry by the way for my English and for what I say ;)
<1> Mr_Jingle: no. I'm a stripper. I'm just ***ually attracted to geeky guys.
<3> lol
<2> Dayna, if you stripped I would find a die and rethread you.
<3> That's not that bad then DaynaGirl
<4> haha
<1> Vibes: then your wife would do you the same :-)
<1> why are guys so damn impressed that women can code?
<3> Hey no lol
<2> DaynaGirl: We're not impressed that they CAN, we're impressed that they DO.
<2> Let's just say that the CS department in college was NOT the place to meet chicks.
<1> where I went to school... half the instructors and at least 1/3rd of the advanced cl***es... were women.
<3> You know DaynaGirl. One of my best friend is a white hat hacker and she is also a C coder... And she is just the best of the world after me
<3> lol
<3> Just kidding
<1> I used to be a white hat hacker...
<3> 09:50 here in switzerland
<3> and I haven't slept much
<1> then I gave it up... cuz a night in jail scared the piss outta me.
<1> I also do C, C++, VB, Delphi, and a bunch of obscure scripting languages...
<3> DaynaGirl: may I ask how old you are?
<1> how old do you thnk I am?
<3> DaynaGirl: congratulations
<3> You are maybe 21, 22?
<3> Oh
<3> No
<3> Maybe more
<3> 24 25
<1> I had a bf back in 77 who was a geek ghod.
<3> ;)
<2> My parents weren't even married then.
<1> I had the serious thigh sweats for him... but he only wanted to talk about computers.
<3> Ok. I'm a yung coder
<3> just 18
<1> you are an embryo
<4> white fat ****er?
<1> MrNeutron: huh?
<4> white hat hacker?
<4> common typo ;)
<3> DaynaGirl: Delphi is an easy language... At least when you see something on your screen. I've developped a couple of scripts to allow blind people to access Borland's interfaces easily but it's still difficult.
<1> a person who hacks just cuz its there... not to do damage.
<3> As I'm blind myself
<3> It becomes quite difficult when you try to developpe an interesting application
<1> legally blind... or absolutely blind?
<2> A blind Delphi programmer?
<3> Vibes: that's me yeah :P
<2> Mr_Jingle: Marco Zehe?
<3> DaynaGirl: I'm completely blind
<3> who's that Vibes ?
<1> I don't think I could be that interested in computers if I were blind.
<3> Oh
<5> so what does your text reader sound like whne i go waoefuwheofwhefiohwofwihf
<5> ?
<1> Goodge: You are evil.
<5> haha
<2> Mr_Jingle: A blind Delphi programmer. Thought maybe you were him. Apparently there are at least two. :)


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