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<0> So switch to Mocha....
<0> j/k
<1> I started out on z/OS and it was heaven compared to administering on Windows
<1> but we used third party tools from BMC
<2> Do subqueries imply usage of temp tables? the same thing yes?
<3> TByte: No.
<3> Pose: We have a really amazingly old IBM "mainframe" here running whatever was before z/OS
<1> OS/390 ?
<3> Could be. COuld also be whatever was before that.
<4> AS/400 :)
<0> Subqueries may create temp tables at the optimizer level, but you'll never see them. Depends on the database.
<3> Not sure about the time frames involved.
<1> AS/400 is not comparable Blade
<1> :P
<1> ESA/370 perhaps
<1> or whatever it was called
<3> THis "mainframe" runs at, I thnk, 33 mhz.
<3> And runs a really, really old version of db2 :)
<1> Drk: Well, on those boxes it's all about MIPS
<2> Mjolnir so there is a specific thing such as temp tables, with SQL?
<5> yes
<0> Short answer - yes.
<0> But implementations can vary
<2> thanks :) sorting out my head.
<2> I think I should attend db lectures this year.
<3> I think they're hoping to keep it until IBM can't find any more spare parts for it, and gives them a newer machien for free ;)
<1> hehe
<2> brb more cigs
<1> Z9 is trendy at the moment
<1> kicks ***
<0> For free? Fat chance - they'll just drop support and then charge a horrific upgrade fee.
<3> Mj: Was a joke. We're phasing it out with the project I'm working on now.
<3> Just hoping it doesn't **** the bed for the last time before we're done.
<0> Ah.
<0> All the better to take literally..... But I'm less here than usual. HAve the flu. :(
<3> hehe
<0> I swear that having the flu screws up your brain.
<3> I feel sorry for the guy that sorts through all of the cobol trying to figure it out.
<0> Better him than me...
<3> I feel the same way
<0> It's like on the hacker test - 1 point if you know COBOL, 2 points if you deny it.
<3> Abotu 2 years ago, when our old cobol guy left the company, I told my boss I would quit on the spot if she made me learn it.
<3> So someone else is doing it.
<3> I have never regretted that decision.
<6> don't like cobol, drky?
<0> Ok, time to try Adelphia customer non-service again....
<3> Rahly: Dunno, don't know it. And don't want to.
<1> what about rexx :)
<0> Wheee. Hold time of 30 minutes to talk to a SALES person. These guys have to seriously ****....
<0> Business sales at that
<3> I remeber rexx.
<3> Vaguely. :)
<6> lexx?
<0> Ok, I guess put the phone down and set an alarm for 30 minutes. Wish I had speaker phone....
<3> Dunno lex, or yacc. Don't feel particularly deprived, either.
<4> Lex is fun
<6> i thought lexx was a tv show
<4> heh
<4> Lexx is
<0> Goes downhill. Or downhell as the case may be. I want to open a business account with Adelphia and they'll get back to me in 3-5 business days.
<3> **** em.
<0> Yeah. Called nTelos. Got a sales weasel immediately, and they can give me 1.5 megabit wireless tomorrow....
<2> lol
<2> sales weasel lmao.
<7> hehe
<2> how you guys are so good with DBs
<2> Are you really old?
<2> I again overwhelmed with the amount of **** (or useful information) I read about SQL queries and dbs
<0> I'm 36. Been doing databases for well over a decade....
<2> beats my month
<2> nice to know :)
<2> I wonder how much experience Drk and Mith had...they OWN me
<4> anyone can own you
<4> it's not hard
<4> :D
<0> In addition to sales weasels you have news ferrets, congresscritters....
<4> senate snakes
<2> bladebutts
<4> TButts
<0> Suits (in general)
<2> lol suits.
<2> i like that a lot
<2> must be chocolate
<0> Suits = emmitters of bogons, which can screw up any technilogical system, and probably the wheel as well.
<1> amazing, same software cost $1100 in the US and $1950 in Norway
<4> not thetons?
<4> gotta be mindful of those body thetons
<2> Blade^ seen any nice films lately?
<2> seems **** all on lately
<2> ooo they making Film4 free
<2> got it now on cable pwnz
<0> Thetons? You mean scientologically speaking or something else?
<2> http://www.channel4.com/film/filmontv/film4_faqs.html <-- free films 12 hours a day
<8> i'm surprised the link didn't contain 'ref=TByte'.. :P
<4> TByte: nah too busy working and then too tired afterwards
<4> i havent done **** all for about 4 weeks
<2> have you done any useful work?
<9> About 7 years experience with various dialects of SQL here TByte
<2> Mithandir cool... I feel much better about myself now
<2> With the money they pay for DBs now, no wonder it's not the easiest topic
<2> easier to code than write dbs
<9> SQL is hell easy
<9> one of the easiest languages in IT
<2> DaynaGirl said the same :/
<0> Name one easier?
<2> My mate was asking me about Db... turned out he uses Access, and the new financial job in moscow requires VBA knowledge and some SQL heh.
<2> I suppose you need rock solid DB knowledge too
<2> doesn't come easy, using all the million tools for SQL... write counters, and what not
<9> Access SQL is pretty tainted
<9> tho there's some neat things in there
<9> like FIRST() aggregrate function
<2> I should have learnt more access back in college
<2> Kids were writing SQL queries...
<2> but marks would have been awarded ifyou demonstrated file i/o and storage into flat file
<2> I did a binary tree file and got a B :/
<2> busted my balls for weeks to make it look closer to the real thing, others just n00bed it and got away
<10> sql is dead easy.
<11> hello from doha, qatar :P
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