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<warjest> MrBtrieve: got a second before you go ? <MrBtrieve> sure <ki9a> hrmm. If in Delphi for .NET a namespace is a "unit" <ki9a> how does it deal with two dll colliding in one namespace? <warjest> I have a btrieve table that has a number of columns. what appears to have happened is in the table definition a column is defined as a char(30) or such, and it was expanded to a char(40) but the table definition wasn't updated. DTS fails to extract it due to the column definition problem <MrBtrieve> how are you accessing the Btrieve tables? <warjest> an application read/writes to this table without issues, but even the PSQL interface can't read the table due to this issue <warjest> DTS/OLE, or PSQL <MrBtrieve> pfft <MrBtrieve> so the DDF wasn't changed? <MrBtrieve> then you're screwed <warjest> how in the hell does the app read/write to it just fine then ? <MrBtrieve> its probably still writing a max of 30 chars <warjest> i know they use one version of delphi, with one version of third party components, etc. they've hacked up their databasing system <MrBtrieve> is this field at the end of the table? <warjest> nope <warjest> about 4 columns deep of ~20 <MrBtrieve> so the 'extra' 10 bytes that the field was expanded to ... what was there before? <warjest> no idea. i just examined the table and realised that the field definition as far as start position, length wasn't right. i noticed one was 10 longer than it was supposed to be. i don't know the history behind it <warjest> and the parent company wont support it <MrBtrieve> just remember that - at the core, Btrieve is a record manager <MrBtrieve> which means all i cares about is that give to you, and receives from you, x # of bytes. <warjest> i have used the microkernel dumps but in this case there is a lot of binary in the table and i haven't been able to figure out how to convert how they store date times to something valid <MrBtrieve> with me? <warjest> no, i'm saying i have used microkernel dumps for other tables that were screwed up in the ddf and extracted data via that way <warjest> but i've always extracted strings, and i read the record #. i can't convert their date times to something valid <warjest> i.e. i don't know how btrieve writes them to disk <MrBtrieve> you going to be around later today? <warjest> yup <Rahly> use the dump reader by ms? <warjest> Rahly: ? <Rahly> nvm <MrBtrieve> warjest: give me 30 minutes or so and then we can go over some of the dirty details of Btrieve that you need to know. <MrBtrieve> ok? <warjest> ok <warjest> you take care of your **** and i'll take care of mine <Rahly> did you recreate crypt, Vibes? <Vibes^> No, I found someone else who did. <Rahly> thats good <Vibes^> All it is is a DES implementation that allows an arbitrary length salt. <Rahly> ahhh, i know php's crypt does multiple things depending on input, i was just wondering <Dayna> hi guys. <Dayna> having a problem. <Vibes^> But I'm really digging ASP.NET. I could get used to this. <Mjolnir> digging ASP.NET? At what point do you realize you're in a hole? <Dayna> when I have two windows (from tform) I link them together by adding code to form1 that moves form2 relative to form1 <Dayna> but since both windows contain animations... form2 creates blanks in form1 that need to be redrawn during a quick drag operation on form1 <Dayna> this looks really bad. <Dayna> is it true that if I used mdi windows... the drag/move operation is faster? <Mjolnir> Dayna - mdi windows aren't much different in speed. Have you tried enabling double-buffering? <Squasige> woot <Dayna> Mjolnir: yeah it makes TFlashPlayerControl go beserk... draws wierd. <Mjolnir> One of those.... <Mjolnir> :( <Mjolnir> So it's flash you're doing your animations in. Unfortunately that's not something I'm familiar with (though for my own benifit I OUGHT to learn) <Mjolnir> Some other animation setups I can make double-buffer and they're smooth. <Mjolnir> But since Flash has major advantages over running plain AVI, fixing flash is probably the way to go. <Dayna> *nod* <Mjolnir> The thing is, I've noticed in web browsers and other things, that when I drag the whole window, the image breaks up badly. <Mjolnir> So this isn't just a Delphi thing. <Dayna> nope. <Mjolnir> I specifically note this with Quicktime. <Mithandir> make it SVG :) <_seibXa__> hm <_seibXa__> why using tflashplayercontrol? <_seibXa__> i think there is some ocx u can use for flash animation <_seibXa__> in powerpoint u can embed a flash object for instance.. <daedo> tflashplayercontrol is probably just a wrapper around the activex object <Mjolnir> Dayna - The one thing I HAVE made work right with all this stuff is VLC rendering to a CGI object. However I don't know if VLC can do Flash, and even if it can, how embeddable it is. Lemme look. <Mithandir> how do you know Tflashplayercontrol isn't a wrapper around that ocx ? :) <_seibXa__> daedo ok i dont know ;) <Mjolnir> _seibXa__ What Dayna's describing is basically a problem with the flash ActiveX. <_seibXa__> ok <_seibXa__> i didnt know ;) <_seibXa__> maybe u can create a small html file <_seibXa__> and embed an IE control? <Mjolnir> I've beaten my head on the wall over issues related to this. Her problem is just one manifestation of a major design flaw that drives a number of people bananas. <Mithandir> mmmm ... bananas <Mjolnir> _seibXa__ If you move IE around with flash animation running, you'll probably get the same effect. Checking on that now to see if the newest does that. <Dayna> _seibXa__: TFlashPlayerControl is a wrapper for delphi to use the flash.ocx <_seibXa__> k <Mithandir> nice echo in here :) <Dayna> _seibXa__: its a cl*** that implements the activex <_seibXa__> dayna i didnt know this ;) <Dayna> and its written by people who used to work for macromedia. <Dayna> and its free. <_seibXa__> k <Mjolnir> Dayna - can you send me a sample of what you're doing. I got Flash to go more smoothly here but I think it's due to the way I have my video set up. <Mjolnir> You don't have to send the whole app - just the two linked windows and the video for them. <Mjolnir> Whoa <Mjolnir> Looking up the details on that control. <Mjolnir> It is NOT an ActiveX wrapper, it does it all itself. <Mjolnir> Ah, I keep reading and they change their tune <Mjolnir> It is a wrapper, but a very fancy one. <Mjolnir> AHA! It says transparency is fully supported. Rather than double buffering, try this - Turn on alpha blend, but leave the alpha level at 100% <Rahly> alpha blending is a translucent effect, not transparent <Mjolnir> Yes, but it changes the buffering mode to something that SHOULD be smoother. <Rahly> yup <Rahly> for tranparent affects, regions would be better <Mjolnir> I've been all over the API level for both transparency and translucence <Mjolnir> At the API level, setting the window to overlay mode may fix her problem, but I'd want to be able to play with that a bit, <Mjolnir> Rahly - did you ever play with my mad alpha blender? Allows you to alpha any window in the system. <MrBtrieve> interesting: http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/06/microsoft-planning-wifi-enabled-portable-media-player-working-o/ <Dayna> Mjolnir: no sorry. I cannot. NDA and all that. <Dayna> anyone have code for creating a dragframe? is it complicated? <Dayna> as in when I drag a window... the window stays where it was... and the frame moves? <Dayna> then when you let go the window pops over there. <Rahly> is there a ShowMessage equiv in C#? <ootje> there's a static method in MessageBox or something <ootje> MessageBox.Show() <esby> Console.WriteLine(message); <ootje> i wouldnt exactly call that a messagebox-equivalent :P <esby> according to here http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1895,1828696,00.asp <ootje> System.Windows.Forms -> MessageBox.Show(..) <Rahly> Console.WriteLine is a Writeln() equiv <Rahly> not a showmessage equiv <_seibXa__> anyone got a good hint for a book for c# ? <Rahly> ootje, actually, i just found it before you said it <ootje> _seibXa__: i read 2, one was a "in 21 days" which ****ed as it was too slow/too newb to programming, and then skipped over to some more java/c++/* -> c# book.. <Rahly> i think the last programming book i've read was Mastering Delphi 3 <ootje> well, if you know java, c# should be a walk in the park <ootje> seems they were *ahem* "very inspired" by java :P <ootje> plus/minus a few things <Dayna> hi there again. <Mjolnir> Ah, I'm me on my main nick. Lovely when the IRC client just up and crashes. <Dayna> well my backup battery system is 5 hours into keeping this laptop alive. <Dayna> and its down to 60 something percent of capacity <Mithandir> yah <Mithandir> don't be surprised if it dies within 10 minutes <Mithandir> capacity readings, especially on new laptops, can be very unreliable <Dayna> this is a backup battery system. similar to a UPS in that the power comes on when it loses power. <ki9a> So anyone else found Blade 3 disapointing? <Mithandir> I always find Blade^ dissapointed <Mithandir> oh you mean the movie? Have only seen the first in the series <ki9a> ah k. <Rahly> it was ok <Rahly> the first was prolly the best, just like ANY movie ever made <Mithandir> hm <Mithandir> remind me not to see 2 and 3 then <Mithandir> also I thought LotR 2 and 3 were better than 1 :) <Rahly> well there are exceptions to every rule, but generally thats the case <Mithandir> yah <Mithandir> and doubly so if the movies are made by disney <ki9a> James Bond :P <Rahly> lol <Mithandir> tho I have decent hopes for Pirates of the Caribean <ki9a> when's that out ? <Rahly> this month?
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