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<0> borland (will) earn it money with other products in future, that is why they buyed several companies
<1> and why it's developping DevCo as an independant company
<2> cforce: Do you have any clue what's happened with Delphi in the last several months?
<3> Vibes: i dont whats goin on with them
<0> yes!
<0> Borland will sell its IDE product line.
<0> and the this ID (DELPHI will die) ..
<0> its like with products buyed by Norton ..
<3> who is buying delphi
<0> ever saw a Norton product of good qaulity..
<0> will see
<3> borland will keep jbuilder though right?
<4> It's Symantec
<1> kreeme: nope
<4> and the Corporate edition rocks
<0> who uses jbuilder.. we have eclipse..
<5> WOAT
<4> yeah right
<1> but it's not selling anymore, really, just spinning off
<4> I tried Eclipse
<3> ****ing borland.
<3> love their compilers. hate their management
<4> jbuilder at least works better
<1> kreeme: which is why they are spinning off the IDE business so it can be an independant business
<6> Mithandir: what's actually the deal with that.. they're 'buying internally' or something?
<0> ki9a: you really have no idea - for sure
<6> Mithandir: what does it actually mean as far as Delphi's future is concerned..
<2> What? Norton? Oh brother.
<1> joe90: they are getting investors and splitting the company basically
<0> elcipse is the best devEnv i ever saw
<2> cforce: Then go to #eclipse and bug them.
<6> Mithandir: dunno if that's a good thing or not.. sounds alright enough i suppose..
<1> The general concensus is that it will be a good thing
<1> but who can tell
<0> splitting=Selling ..
<0> =firing some good people, if they don't leave by themsef
<0> but every delphi developer will feel at home in .NEt, you really feel the prsende of the delphis architect
<2> cforce: Where are you getting this info?
<1> you know cforce
<0> ahem .. i meant #C
<1> over the past halff an hour you have constantly reinforced my view of you as a clueless idiot
<0> Mithandir: the last thing if someone can't argue is to insult
<4> no way
<2> cforce: We're still waiting for you to make a solid argument. I'm going to ask one more time. Where are you getting this info?
<1> cforce: wanne see how many here agree with me ? :P
<0> i visited school and learned reading ..
<7> yo ppl
<7> what was api call to have some file copied after next reboot
<4> only if we can count "aye"'s mith :)
<8> and just think, though, if you were in #C, you would have been kicked and banned
<4> _seibXa__: movefileex
<7> ah thx
<7> i didnt remember ;)
<1> I visited school and learned maths, but I'm still clueless about art :P
<4> oh yeah
<4> I even had art
<4> Still don't get it
<2> cforce: Cite your sources, or get banned. One minute. Go.
<4> but he'll think we have no arguments and ban him because of that! :P
<1> so?
<1> who cares
<4> nobody
<4> btw, here are some pics from the HP OOTP set http://www.mugglenet.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=1666
<4> PRivet Drive mainly
<9> j.i.c.
<10> anyone know of an app/util which will extract the text from a pdf properly?
<9> .net ordelphi?
<7> cforce
<7> hehe
<7> some german idiot
<9> ooh app?
<10> any app, right now adobe reader is giving me gibberish if i try to copy the text
<9> LordCrc: PdfToHtml from the xpdf website
<11> LordCrc: Hrm... I've only seen components that write PDFs.
<9> LordCrc: then you are SOL anyway
<9> you can try it
<9> look for xpdf on google
<7> lordcrd: google for jaws pdf
<9> they have win32 binaries
<9> but if it's giving giberish
<9> it means it didn't use ascii encodin
<9> g
<7> http://www.jawspdf.com/
<10> ki9z: so wtf is up with that :/
<10> how bout som OCR in da house
<9> LordCrc: I say try it
<9> but if it doesn't work, your only option is OCR
<10> so silly
<9> there was one, I tried once
<9> pdf wasn't meant to be extracted
<7> abby finereader is good ocr soft
<7> i use it often
<10> adobe reader displays the characters alright
<10> :/
<10> so close, yet so far
<9> well...
<9> you know how PDF works ?
<12> it works well
<12> :P
<1> nobody knows how pdf works
<12> vb long = integer delphi right :)
<1> not even adobe
<9> that's true
<9> but the idea is
<9> you have a set of character
<9> just indexed by number
<10> ki9z: so instead of encoding characters, they encoded the actual splines and ****?
<7> i think pdf is the best os independent document format available
<9> most use ascii
<8> vb long = delphi LongInt
<9> however it's not needed
<9> if you say 14=the glyph for A
<9> then 14 will be A
<12> ty rahly
<10> ki9z: point taken
<10> ki9z: how about letting me decide which one is what :)
<9> sure
<9> next time you create a pdf
<9> you can decide ;)
<10> i didnt create this ****
<10> id do it right ;)
<9> that said
<9> I never actually seen a pdf
<9> that didn't use ASCII ;)
<10> http://www.math.uio.no/~paularne/MZ.pdf
<10> read that one and you have
<10> :D
<7> pdf is like postscript
<9> can I read it ?
<9> did you notice
<10> its english
<9> that when you select it
<9> it doesn't properly select it?
<9> I don't know what they used to create it
<10> hm it properly selects here
<9> but it wasn't done from doc to pdf
<10> prob ps originally
<9> select from abstract to group
<10> then converted
<10> all unix hobos at univ
<8> doesn't adobe have an export option?
<9> sure
<7> http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/en/pdf/PDFReference16.pdf
<9> even read can :)
<9> reader
<9> but if the input isn't ascii or utf8
<9> there's not much to export
<9> except images
<9> pdftotext gives the same crap btw
<10> figures
<8> how can you properly convert pdf to text ANYWAY?
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