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<0> and its not bad once everything is installed and running
<0> and once you kind of learn the ins and outs of it
<1> *yawn*
<1> w00t
<1> daedo.
<1> It's 0106 in ME, do you know where your 00000000101 are?
<0> hah
<0> nice
<0> :D
<1> whatup g?
<0> working as always
<1> lol
<0> well not always but a lot
<1> I tend to disappear when I get inundated with work
<0> ya



<1> you know... work... getting drunk, sleeping around.... little time for doing computer stuff @ home
<1> :-/
<0> i'm always inundated so i stick around
<1> I just happen to have insomnia... and waiting for slutware... er.. openSuSE 10.2 cds to d/l so I can burn them and do an install when I get around to it tomorrow
<0> went to CES, stayed a while after in vegas with my fiancee which was fun
<0> been working with vista a lot, still doing too much delphi work
<1> coolio... didja go to Circus Circus to see where Tupak got shot or anything?
<1> :D
<0> hah no
<0> but we went to the adult video awards preparty at rumjungle :D
<0> got a vip table and ****, it was fun
<1> sweet
<1> last time I was at the Rio it was a Chippendale's convention going on
<1> sat at roulette w/ my shirt off along with the other players--it was weird... yet sweaty. Ahhh life before the dot bomb
<0> heheh
<1> I'm doing stodgy work now
<1> for these ****ers -> pmi.org
<1> dumping their entire web system and replacing it with Sharepont 2007
<1> 90 custom web parts, Commerce Server, BizTalk 06
<2> woah. big job
<1> This time instead of being a lead or even a manager I'm just a senior cog on a 35 person team
<1> but the pay is good--no complaints
<1> PMI is the be-all and end-all of project management
<1> so I wanted this as a resume enhancer
<1> if it goes well, I can tell another interviewer later in life to right click on pmi.org, view source (and if you grep--you'll catch my name embedded in the JS)
<1> :D
<1> ****ing project has over 3,400pgs in design documents already---ugh and for being the body of Project Management---the org in the inside is a mess
<0> wow
<2> ewwww
<1> it's like some sort of direct marketing agency + non-profit + a thinktank that doesn't know what they want to do
<1> but they have money
<1> if you've ever worked on a project with a PMI-certified project manager---these are the boobs that give out the certificates
<1> they're out in suburban Philadelphia
<1> </shrug> project management itself tho is ****ing boring
<1> thankless job
<1> pays better than working at Micro$oft :D
<1> Whoa..... am I reading my screen right...Dayna finally an OP now?
<1> That only took what... 9 years?
<2> lol she's been there for as long as I've known her
<2> which is like 2 years
<3> Tucker^: been an op for like 2 years now.
<3> at least...
<1> no... wait....
<1> 1994 == Delphi 1
<3> in fact I was made an op while you were still a regular.
<1> I was on when D1 came out, then kinda went poof around D6
<1> this is like the only IRC # i ever go to on efnet
<1> bitches know their WinAPI
<1> :D
<2> hehe
<3> I started on irc in 94 (late)
<3> I didn't come here until after my first job... doing delphi 4
<3> and 5
<1> I was on IRC before that... but on a lot of different channels
<1> #oldwarez, #gaysanantonio (long gone) ugh.... lessee... #linux before it got polluted with noobs (Slackware in 93 baby)
<3> I came here in 97 in about sept
<1> Dayna: remember NETCOM?
<1> and how bad it was?
<3> not imediately no.
<3> I come from the backwoods.
<1> I was on it like the first month it came out---before then I used to use a BBS door that went to an old AIX machine on timeshare with my brothers 286 laptop--that didn't work too well



<3> never even heard of the internet until mid 93
<1> yea.... like when I was on it I remember there being stuff like Gopher and Veronica and stuff like that
<3> I was accessing it via fidonet gateways... I wasn't impressed utnil late 94 when I moved to a university town and got a free shell acct at the college.
<1> and I had OS/2.... when I got Delphi I ran it in a WinOS2 machine
<3> Archie and Veronice
<1> I still haven't rid myself of Linux---I wiped XP off my home box after I played with XGL.... then I decided I can move my live back to Linux and do work **** in VMware
<1> it actually has worked out pretty well
<3> nice for you/
<3> I have winxp on my dev machine and MCE on my other two systems. one of which is a PVR
<1> I do 100% web now, so no need for high powered Windows machine no more---I use XP at work but I am almost always in a VM machine over there too. I shuttle about 15 different VMs back and forth from work/home via a USB drive
<1> D: Nice
<3> I didn't think web programming paid as well as app design.
<2> it pays better here in .au
<1> I've survived @ home Windows-free now for two years. When I figured out how to ssh to home and launch Limewire and display the desktop at work then I was hooked
<2> dayna: very, very high demand
<3> here in canada if you have 15 specialties... you get $10/hour. developer gets 20+
<1> canadian... ugh
<1> that's poverty wages in Philly
<1> how can you have expenses that low when you're in a deep freeze 5 months out of the year?
<1> :D
<3> we aren't having frost on our oranges.
<1> my super is now wanting to split the cost of the boiler for the building
<1> like---a boiler that has been down there in the basement for 35 years all they do is pay for the oil
<3> sounds like you're moving again then.
<1> surprisingly no..... gentrification is taking over. I bought a couple shells out in the ghetto and waiting to see what happens
<1> but my neighborhood has gotten nice in the last year I wannt live it some before I look to find something permanent
<1> Dropped 40K on a 6 bedroom Victorian about 1mi north of me in the badlands (not even safe there during the day to drive to it).
<1> I have to wear a hoodie over my head so I blend in and take the bus to check up on the property every now and then
<1> Like... 4 blocks north of me is lofts... 2 blocks is state office buildings... then right after that it IMMEDIATELY turns to crap (Section 8, etc)
<1> but down here you can't rent for less than $1,000.00 now for a studio--and Starbucks is popping up everywhere
<1> it's strange
<1> Starbucks next to multimillion dollar office towers next to a dollar store---on the same block
<1> I live 6 blocks east of where the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution and Bill of Rights was signed---which created this country. In between me and there (Independece Hall) are about 6 dollar stores
<1> Figga that!
<1> :D
<1> wooo blast from the past there
<2> heh
<1> I guess it's for those people who really don't like STL
<1> :)
<2> holy jesus
<1> what
<2> about 100 lines of complex winapi code just worked first time
<1> noo....
<2> must be some hidden errors
<1> there's a memleak in there somewhere
<2> ah now that's possible
<2> but it ****ing works
<1> 100 lines == 100,000 undisposed handles
<1> :D
<1> I'd go move that code to its own little empty app, wrap it in a loop with a big counter, and watch it in taskmgr.exe
<1> (before I'd celebr8)
<1> I never bothered to know.... what's gonna happen with Win32 in vista?
<1> how much of it will deprecate--if it all?
<1> will it go into a compatibility layer and everyone will have to go learn something new?
<2> I can now start any process under any terminal service session (or interactive session) from a non-interactive service literally AS the user who's logged in
<2> take that windows vista security
<1> prot: COOL
<1> prot: EMAIL ME THAT
<1> :D
<1> christoofar@gmail.com now now now
<2> sorry no can do
<1> pls ;)
<1> oh come ON why?
<2> ah actually what does it matter
<2> ? paste
<4> Pastebin: http://www.vkarlsen.no/pastebin
<5> hm totally generic question.. version numbers.. when do you people usually update the .release. part of them? i get maj.min. .build, but .release/revision i can't say i'm sure about :p
<2> we usually manuall increment the major/minor/release
<2> and let the build script auto-inc the BUILD component
<1> I'm only familiar with X.X.X.X versioning styles in .NET ***emblies
<2> Tucker^: http://www.vkarlsen.no/pastebin/default.asp?id=7728
<5> yea build is usually jsut incremental or days-since-whatever
<2> Tucker^: note that line 649 refers to C:\a.exe -- just make it the target process name to inject


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