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<0> I wonder how would it be best to validate data before sending it to SQL server... my SQL server rejected a few inserts because data was either too long or incomatible type... should a client do some validation first?
<1> yes
<1> or even better, middle tier
<2> well not necessarily
<1> obviously, all depends
<2> you can always read the access violation
<2> i do some at the server level, some at the client level
<2> if you have a series of triggers to roll back transactions and such, good luck duplicating that on the client level :)
<3> wtf
<4> TByte: It depends on the validation
<4> for instance, if you have a unique index on a table and the user try to save a duplicate, it would be rather stupid to validate it clientside
<4> although if you have a phone field and you want a certain format, clientside validation would be good
<4> as for length / types ... let the DB do the work, try to set props on the controls and if you love your users, create an error handler
<0> ok PoseFant.
<0> Now...
<0> What's the difference between creating index on many fields, or doing them separately?
<0> like this: CREATE INDEX IDX_CONTACT1 ON CONTACT
<0> (DATE_ADDED, FIRST_NAME, JOB_FUNCTION, CMP_ADD2);
<0> how would it compare to CREATE INDEX IDX_CONTACT_FIRSTNAME etc?
<5> woo .. 'SCUM' is on tv .. great film :D
<2> TByte: it is called a composite index
<2> there is also clustered indexes
<2> what sql server are you using?
<6> isn't there only one sql server?
<7> hi guys.
<6> hey dayna
<7> trying to debug an html problem... need to see raw packets of http data
<7> installed 'pmoni.exe' "Packet Monitor"
<7> configured it... it says "Unable to create raw socket.
<7> "
<7> winMCE - firewall off - on wireless network behind router+NAT
<7> any ideas?
<8> http://ipodlinux.org/Itunesdb#Database_Object
<9> anyone knows how i can setup a database object
<9> to that?
<9> rather where i should start i mean
<7> not me.
<9> hehe ok:)
<6> k
<7> ever used a packet sniffer?
<9> me? yes
<6> i use Analyzer dayna so
<9> ethearl
<9> ethearal or something
<6> ethereal for windows ****s
<7> any idea why I wouldn't be able to open a raw socket?
<6> permissions
<6> sockets filled
<7> group policies?
<6> handles filled
<6> i don't think there is a group policy on raw sockets
<6> since its user limited
<9> why does it ****?
<7> which permission then?
<7> where do I go to enable it?
<6> ZatH, because there are much better ones, and easier to use
<6> Dayna: administrator group i think
<10> i head rumours about not being able to create raw sockets on XP SP2, but can't confirm them
<6> no
<6> it wasn't removed in SP2
<7> Rahly: any idea what to look for?
<6> for what?
<6> the problem?
<6> i'm not even sure of the problem
<6> how are you creating raw sockets? is this through code? or you think another program uses it?
<7> uhm. I think its through code... its a program I downloaded... "Packet Monitor"
<6> ahhh
<6> not sure then, i doubt it uses raw sockets
<11> is it possible to make a TPopup disappear when it's used for the tray icon, so it disappears when you click on the desktop?
<7> http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/pmon.htm
<6> raw sockets wouldn't let you "listen
<6> in"
<7> hmmm. all I know is its supposed to listen to socket 80 and show me what is going in and out.
<7> and it says "unable to create raw socket...cancelling"
<6> oh, hmmmm
<6> well
<6> in sp2, you can't create a raw socket, and set tcp data over it
<6> *send
<7> hmmm.
<2> Rahly: thank god!
<7> another person I know running XP SP2 runs this program.
<6> Dayna: here is the one i use, and it works under XP SP2, and its works great
<6> http://analyzer.polito.it/
<2> i use ethereal
<2> it can re***amble voip conversations and such
<6> only unencrypted stuff
<2> not many people encrypt their voip yet
<6> plus it looks better on windows
<2> not a big fan of the GTK looking interface?
<6> hell no
<2> it does remind me of 3.1
<6> looks like ****
<6> and i'm not a fan of caring what things look like
<6> but those GTK linux ported apps, as well as java, looks TERRIBLE on windows
<12> no cooment :-)
<13> yo
<6> hey vibes
<6> i'm also not a fan of skinable problems
<12> admitedly the GUI end of things is the one thing windows is really good at
<12> and unix ****s donkey nads at
<6> actually its a lot better now
<12> x based guis?
<6> unfortunately, the windows ports still look like ****
<6> yes
<12> well ya its improved some but
<12> the latest version of gtk/qt/kde/gnome still arent quite up to windows gui
<12> in my personal opnion
<12> based on using them
<12> unless they've come out with some killer updates in the last month or so
<6> http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/3.5/07-konqueror-photos.png
<12> not bad
<6> much better than
<6> http://www.kingant.net/gaim/GaimPresentation/www/pics/slide_11.jpeg
<12> but a still doesnt quite do justice to an interactive interface
<0> DaynaGirl
<12> not bad
<7> yes?
<12> but still - i dont think kde is quite up to windows on gui vehavior yet
<12> its close maybe
<6> i'll stick with Analyzer for windows
<6> i can't use ethereal under linux
<0> DaynaGirl get www.ethereal.com
<0> it's the best one, I've used it for years.
<12> ethereal..........im having a brain fart here...
<12> o doh
<12> :-)
<6> winpcap is better, since its engineered for windows, instead of being a halfport
<7> Rahly: how do I configure this program to monitor port 80?
<6> ummm
<6> did you install it?
<0> DaynaGirl just get Ethereal
<0> you'll like it a lot :)
<7> Rahly: yes. and the library it requires too
<14> Hi again guys
<0> Winpcap? :P
<6> click start new capture session
<0> heh Capture filter for winpcap: "tcp port 80" :P
<6> there should be a "Application Layer" select "Web Traffic" or type "port 80" in the Filter Code
<14> is there a better way of doing if statements? I want to do "if *something* and *something* and *something* then"
<14> and then if the combination of them is untrue, if one is false for example
<0> Rahly I don't believe you called ethereal **** btw.
<0> It's been an outstanding piece of program. Never crashed in its life
<15> hi guyz
<6> TByte: i didn't
<6> YOU just think i did
<0> you said it ****s :)
<6> hey oz
<15> yo Rahly
<0> ****s, ****, same thing.
<6> didn't say that either
<6> don't put words in my mouth, ya bum
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