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<0> "keeping programmers in the dark, like mushrooms"
<0> Someone in here must know that song? Help me find a copy (mp3) please.
<1> no idea
<0> Dr Demento fans?
<2> isn't it "keep in the dark and feed them ****, just like mushrooms"?
<0> Whats the full title?
<2> not sure
<0> Well... thats sounds familiar... darn
<2> its a pretty common quote you know
<3> is that Weird Al?
<3> in anycase..
<3> i must make like a pine and leve.
<3> oh wait.
<3> pines have needles.
<3> :)
<3> try Oak!
<3> in any case, Bye you all.
<0> tootles
<4> "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows by J.K. Rowling, the seventh and final book in the best-selling series, has been scheduled for release at 12:01 a.m. on July 21, 2007, Scholastic announced today"
<5> any advise would be helpful... Seems my delphi 2006 is pucking up my projects... I get a access violation on application.inialization.. Where should I start debugging??? Im a little lost..... The project wortked fine a few hours ago and i made no changes
<5> this is the 3rd projhect it ****ed up
<5> any advise on what i can do if its bombing on application.initialize?
<6> evening all
<7> i'm trying to make a tlist of tshape objects.
<7> but, after i do new, and try to set amyshape^.width for example...get error.
<7> i'm pretty sure i'm getting the concept wrong...but can only find details on using cle*** type with tlist.
<7> *cl***
<7> any hints?
<8> you just create your tlist
<8> wait, tshape isn't an object is it?
<8> create an array of tshape, or create your own cl*** that records your information and use a tlist of that, and you don't have to do ^
<8> i thought tshape was a record, could be wrong, and never tried those in a tlist
<8> ok nevermind tshape is a component, sorry haven't used that in ages
<8> so you just to mylist: tlist;
<8> mylist := tlist.create;
<8> mylist.add(someshape);
<7> someshape will be dynamically created though.
<8> tshape(mylist[0]).whatever....
<7> cause, i'm not sure how many i'll need.
<8> right
<8> thats fine
<8> if you want, use a tobjectlist not a tlist
<8> its in contnrs
<8> if you do then your shapes will be freed when you destroy the list
<8> only real difference
<7> i have the tlist declared globally.
<7> and the objects will be created in a procedure.
<7> it'll still work?
<8> right, so after you create an object, do mylist.add(theshape);
<8> and then later you can go through your list and do tshape(mylist[0]).whatever
<8> a list can hold any object so you have to cast it as a tshape
<8> if you want i can give you the code for a typesafe list of tshapes
<7> ahhh
<7> cool.
<8> sec, gotta wait for delphi to open
<8> ? paste
<9> Pastebin: http://www.vkarlsen.no/pastebin
<7> i thought it would get destroyed in the list when i free'd the object that i did the add to.
<7> well, it's compiling :)
<8> it will
<8> if you destroy the object yourself you need to remove it from the list
<8> otherwise you'll get an av when you access that element in the list
<7> that's the problem.
<7> i'm need to dynamically create the objects in a procedure.
<8> well, why are your tshapes getting destroyed, when the form gets destroyed?
<7> so...tlist decleared globally.
<8> thats fine, but why are the shapes getting destroyed without you knowing
<8> if you know when they are getting destroyed you can just remove them from the tlist
<7> when i exit the procedure.
<7> that creates them.
<8> well, do you want them free'd then or not?
<8> do you want them to stay in the list?
<8> if so just don't .free them
<7> ohh...ok.
<7> lol...i'm used to that being a "memory leak"
<7> lol.
<8> if not, then just .extract them from the list
<7> guess i just wont free them at the end :)
<8> then free them
<7> yeah.
<8> no its not, but when you destroy the list, free each object in it
<7> i'll free them when i destroy the list then...correct.
<8> or use a tobject list
<7> ahh.
<7> ok...thanks :)
<8> or use this: http://www.vkarlsen.no/pastebin/default.asp?id=7723
<8> that uses a tobjectlist, so it'll free the shapes when its destroyed
<8> plus it will make it so its specific to a tshape, so you don't have to do any casting
<7> lol...wow man. thanks! :D
<8> np, its simple, just does the casting for you
<7> is there a way to copy the properties from an existing shape into the newly created ones?
<8> ya .***ign()
<7> or, do i have to set everything myself?
<8> but that always depends on whether the object actually implements .***ign(), so make sure of that
<8> generally works with vcl stuff though
<7> wow. didn't realize you could use ***ign like that!
<7> i've used it with images...but didn't know it worked for objects.
<8> it starts at tpersistent i think, but again it all depends on whether or not an object implements it
<7> hrmm...can't ***ign tshape to tshape.
<8> hah, guess not ;)
<7> damn :)
<7> that's ok.
<8> i get the feeling that diskeeper, like the windows defrag, along with all other parameters also has a "do as best as you can in X amount of time"
<8> it seems like if the drive is bad enough, you have to defrag it a couple times to get it completely defragged
<8> or maybe it's a max # of p***es
<8> thats probably a) more likely and b) why they ditched the progess bar in vista
<10> aloha
<11> hi there
<10> hey dayna. how goes it?
<10> did all that job stuff work itself out
<11> well I got paid.
<11> time will tell.
<10> mm
<12> I'm doing a conference call with india tonight.
<12> they've been ****ing me over.
<10> which part of the company is in india?
<10> other devs or support?
<12> php + mysql
<10> ah
<12> Delhi
<10> I was supposed to have people show up today to put down fireant baits
<10> at 8:30am
<10> good thing I forgot and didn't get up because.. they didn't turn up either
<12> I hate that. most of us do.
<12> on the bright side... you didn't lose any work time :-)
<13> Ugh. I had an exterminator do that to me once.
<13> Very unhappy, I was.
<10> lol true true
<10> the thing is, they've been har***ing me about it
<10> it's a government thing, they're trying to exterminate all fireants in the country
<10> so I finally organize a date and well you know the rest
<12> are fireants one of those pests brought in from another country?
<10> yes
<10> there a really nasty agressive ant
<12> we have a few species around each of our international ports.
<10> http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/fireants/
<10> lol: if sending a sample.. "DO NOT SEND LIVE ANTS.
<10> btw, anybody used NANT for build scripts?
<10> woot one does exist
<10> dayna: is it possible to leave messages with the bots for somebody here, specifically ki9a ?
<14> i can
<14> im sure dayna could too
<14> well i say that
<14> let me see if the bot has that enabled
<10> mm I guess I could just tell him next time
<10> I just remember he was looking for a nant gui a while back
<14> it appears to have it
<14> what is it and i'll try it
<10> a visual NANT script builder exists at http://www.nantpad.com/
<14> thats it^ ?
<10> NANT is a build scripting engine
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