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<0> my take on it is that if they're ignorant, they're not designers, then they're kids in basements
<0> but maybe that's too harsh
<1> any idea how to modify parent environment?
<0> of what?
<2> Well, designers can know a lot about what makes good visual design, but not much about how to make that design search engine friendly.
<2> A good designer is also part marketer and part psychologist.
<0> i guess it also depends on what it's for, really
<0> some things are so oversaturated that a new company with a new domain can't hope to be searched out, so it doesn't really matter much
<0> then it might be more important to be very visually avant-garde to the people you hand your business card to that will in turn go to your site
<0> (hopefully)
<2> Then you have to use other means to get people's attention.
<2> Like getting digg'ed or something.
<0> my business isn't really "technological" or in the IS/IT field so much, so that wouldn't really work, but i see what you mean
<2> And to a certain degree, things like adwords can help you work around such blockages.
<0> don't you get "dug"? :)
<2> probably



<3> lol
<3> "Sports Interactive announces a halt to further development of its Eastside Hockey Manager due to piracy."
<0> why is that funny? :\
<3> yeah right
<3> "Aqua Teen Hunger Force Brings Boston to a Halt"
<1> SEO is just search spam
<2> It certainly can be, but isn't necessarily.
<1> index poisoning if use exact term
<2> Done appropriately, it's just making sure people that want to find you can find you.
<2> But done inappropriately, it's spam.
<4> hi all how know (for wi := 0 to ComponentCount-1 do) how can ask if the Components[wi] have the property visible and or enabled ?
<5> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=rtti%20property%20by%20name&rls=com.microsoft:*&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&sa=N&tab=wg
<6> aloha
<3> hey protie
<6> hiya rahly
<3> rare to see you on at this time
<6> it'll be pretty common from now on
<6> I resigned to work on my own stuff remember
<3> nope
<6> oh. I resigned
<3> i missed that day then
<6> to work on my own stuff
<6> and on the pstcompactor contract work
<4> daedo thanks
<7> :)
<6> rahly: is there a way to determine the name of the current desktop ie (winsta0\Default <-- default bit)
<6> I can get the window station bit with GetProcessWindowStation but doesn't seem to be an equiv for the desktop name
<3> have you tried GetWindowText on the desktop window?
<6> er no
<6> it would have the actual desktop name in it?
<3> desktops have names?
<6> yep
<1> lol
<1> EnumWindowStations()
<1> and then Desktops
<6> Clowne: no, I don't want to enum them, I want to know what the CURRENT one the process is on is
<3> well
<1> GetProcessWindowStationthen
<6> so after I do SetProcessWindowStation(..) and SetThreadDesktop(..) I can undo them
<5> mms://bdntv.borland.com/chat
<3> you can get the desktop for a thread, protie, since threads can have different desktops
<6> that'll do
<3> a process can have multiple threads
<3> and thereby multiple desktops
<3> GetThreadDesktop ?
<6> ahhh
<6> I guess the SetThreadDesktop should have indicated ***THREAD****
<6> heh
<3> then use the GetUserObjectInformation() to get then name?
<6> the handle is even better
<3> well its a handle to the desktop itself
<3> not to the window of the desktop
<6> no no, that's perfect
<6> ? paste
<8> Pastebin: http://www.vkarlsen.no/pastebin
<3> returns HDESK not HWND
<6> yep. let me show you why
<6> http://www.vkarlsen.no/pastebin/default.asp?id=7717
<6> I need the original settings (ln 34-ln42) so that after LN 54 I can switch window stations and then switch desktops, do some stuff and then revert back



<5> delphi hour has started
<6> :)
<0> argh i hate flash
<6> ah don't we all
<0> i especially hate that if you alt+tab out of the dev environment
<0> and alt+tab back in, the code window automagically gets un-focused even if it was prior to blurring the dev environment
<0> and thats not even taking AS's general nuttiness into account :P
<6> I just hate it because of the ads people use it for on the web
<0> hehe
<0> then you're going to hate my application of it, most likely :P
<0> at least mine has boobies!
<0> heh
<6> take that !
<0> no, it's not a "can you punch the monkey" banner game
<0> :P
<1> fart button?
<0> aw, you got me
<1> you should create shortcut in accessories\entertainment :p
<0> :P
<6> omg I can't believe it. This actually works!
<6> to all those who doubted it was possible, you can start client applications in the users context from a non interactive service
<5> nice, they announced it on the delphi hour so now i can be all happy about it, devex is doing skinning for their vcl products
<5> like they have for their .net products
<5> pretty exciting i think :)
<9> newbie webapp question
<9> can "asp webapps/webpages" be hosted on a linux server?
<6> not really
<6> there's a thing called Mono which is about 80% there but I wouldn't trust it in a production envornment
<9> "not really" or "no"
<6> not reliably
<6> and certainly NOT asp.net 2 apps
<6> mrb: http://www.mono-project.com/ASP.NET
<6> and their winforms implementation is um a joke
<9> i konw about mono
<9> well, here is why i ask...
<9> a "colleague" of mine, and i say "colleague" sarcastically....
<9> he's writing a web-based version of an order entry app that we have running in windows.
<6> right
<9> he started this projected entirely in PHP on a Linux server. I suggested we use IIS since alot of the code could be re-used...but...well...he hates windows w/ a p***ion.
<3> that was a good episode
<9> I actually suggested APS.NET intially
<9> well, now a coworker just emailed me asking if i know much about ASP since a portion of the app that does https:// comm supposedly cannot be written in php
<9> so according to him, 'he's going the ASP route now...'
<9> so does htis mean he's rewriting teh entire damn thing?
<9> or just a portion?
<3> weird
<6> interop via HTTP stuff is possible
<10> fire his ***
<6> and as to the COM stuff being impossible in COM, I doubt it
<6> er in PHP
<3> i doubt that you couldn't use php though
<9> no clue here.
<6> however, the guy sounds like an ***. I say don't offer him any help whatsoever
<9> i never do.
<9> i can't stand the guy.
<6> he made the mess, let him clean i up
<3> well i personally don't like using windows as a server environment
<9> he's a bitchy-*** anti-windows bow-to-linux ***.
<9> but answer me this...
<9> if you had a working windows application/database/system in place...
<9> all in Delphi
<9> a ****load of component code.
<9> wouldn' the first route be 'hey, what can i do in Delphi to write a web-app subsystem?'
<3> depends
<9> instead of rewriting the whole damned thin?
<9> thing?
<9> its just silly IMHO
<6> no. my first route would be.. how can I expose all the bits as COM objects and consume them
<6> then gradually migrate it over in time
<9> its not a total 'migration'
<3> i prefer libraries over com, anyday
<6> oh god then what a waste of resources
<6> MrBtrieve: maybe look at Hydra from RemObjects


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