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<0> terminating explorer is fine
<0> terminating various other things is probably not so fine :P
<1> edge: hah
<0> if you absolutely want to keep things on top of everything
<0> look into SetWindowPos and SetWindowPlacement
<0> and do exactly what the desktop window does to stay under everything, so to speak, except the opposite :P
<2> hmmm..interestign idea
<2> get desktop handle, set to on top
<2> might screw a few ppl up maybe?
<0> its terribly annoying
<2> i could be
<2> but i know a few ppl i would like to see deal with that
<2> of course...then they would call me to come fix it
<3> uh, just finished the war in the air of herbert wells
<3> highly curious view
<4> Hrm. What window mode does explorer use to keep everything on the bottom? I don't see a "bottommost" listed....
<3> hwndParent == NULL
<3> and APPWINDOW style
<0> it doesnt
<0> i mean it may do that, but that's not how the desktop window works
<0> there are plenty of desktop window replacements out there with source code, just look at them
<0> basically if you always setwindowpos it with SWP_NOZORDER it won't be brought topmost when activated
<3> doh, sorry i read **** instead of Q ;)
<3> just SetParent(Handle, GetDesktopWindow()); and save everyting before running ;)
<3> vise versa
<3> SetParent(GetDesktopWindow(), Handle);
<2> sounds liek fun
<4> Wheee. Downloading Vista from MSDN now. Just think - in 12 hours I'll be able to completely crap up my system.
<5> why?
<5> I'd just get say, W2K3
<2> masochist
<5> much safer and enjoyable.
<2> NEVER EVER get the first version of ANYTHING
<4> Actually, I'm not going to upgrade what I have - I'm going to put it in a separate partition.
<2> of course....then shareware authors would all die
<4> I know - never run .0 of anything.
<2> wait for 2.2
<2> or at least wait till the 2nd service pack
<0> ill upgrade next time i get it on a computer
<0> but not before then
<4> However I'm relatively safe if I keep XP on the system.
<5> the guy from Heroes
<5> that can hear others toughts
<5> he was in Alias too
<4> I wonder how much difference in resource usage is between the debug build and release build...?
<6> a lot, is my guess
<4> It'd be nice to have the debug symbol sets available.... I really need to find a spare drive and see what I can do with it.
<4> Hrm. I'm licensed for 10 copies of Vista for development work. I wonder if that's 10 for each type of Vista or 10 total.... Guess I'll find out.
<7> there's only 8 Vista editions i think
<7> prolly 10 total
<4> Well, I will find out tomorrow. What I REALLY hate about MSDN is I have to use their client which only downloads at 1/10th the speed of what I usually can get.
<6> i can get around 100mbit from there :)
<4> I'm the local mirror so it's up to me to do the slow crap.
<6> :P
<8> whoa a rare sight
<9> How can I keep a string list when I create it in the begin of the procedure, and call it twice?
<9> the procedure
<8> keep?
<9> I don't know exactly what it does, but im getting a list index out of bounds
<8> when you create it, it stays created until you free it, if you don't free it, it'll stay alive in memory, (aka memory leak)
<9> probably because the list gets created twice
<10> stupid laserjet 5000 is on the fritz
<10> wont feed paper from tray 2
<10> yet 1 and 3 work fine
<8> wow, thats a pretty old printer
<10> 5000GN
<9> so what exactly happens
<10> made march 18th, 1998 according to the back of it
<9> procedure begin, create list, add 1 string, goto begin
<11> should be a good delphi hour today, i'm excited
<8> Magnoon: pretty vague, paste code
<8> ? pastebin
<12> Pastebin: http://www.vkarlsen.no/pastebin
<7> daedo: why, are they going to finally admit they ****? :)
<9> http://www.vkarlsen.no/pastebin/ViewPaste.aspx?id=7716
<8> sl[0] should work after that, Magnoon
<9> yup
<9> that works
<9> but what happens if its get called again, does 0 get overwritten?
<8> yes, you are recreating it, and thereby causing a memory leak if you aren't freeing it
<9> but what if I want to keep it
<8> don't put the create there?
<9> than put it where?
<8> whereever you think it needs to be created for use
<7> Hmmm
<9> on form create?
<8> For example, TForm1.FormCreate() ?
<8> but then make sure you free it in TForm1.FormDestroy
<9> ok
<9> :)
<8> haha
<8> "UK Greens Declare Vista Bad For Environment"
<7> heh
<13> ancient village found next to Stonehenge. cool.
<8> lol that was yesterday :P
<13> just made it to toronto news
<11> Blade^: COO of devex is the guest today
<7> ahhh
<8> lol
<8> http://cgi.ebay.ca/Pontiac-Trans-Am-1984-pontiac-Trans-Am-KNIGHT-RIDER-replica_W0QQitemZ280074602850QQihZ018QQcategoryZ6427QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
<11> Rahly: that thing looked pretty cool
<8> he accepts paypal only
<11> **** that
<13> $19k -- pocket change
<8> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMG2SBwIcrM
<8> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/385480/build_a_mini_spud_gun_out_of_stuff_you_can_find_around_the_house/
<14> *YAWN*
<8> hey vibes
<14> Hi Rahly
<8> hows it going?
<14> Not too bad. Spent the afternoon working on a contract.
<8> bike ride?
<14> Too cold. Indoor trainer.
<14> Hate that thing.
<8> lol
<14> But a local real estate office has hired me to help them tweak their internet business strategy, so I spent the afternoon doing "SEO research."
<14> In other words, exercising common sense in web design. :P
<8> kewl
<14> And tonight's project: Serializable parse trees.
<11> apparently vista also auto elevates for apps with the word "patch" in them
<14> ...and as I stare at the code, I realize I'm not sure how to best do this.
<0> unfortunately "SEO" to many people seems to mean "litter your page with text links that can be parsed by google adsense" :P
<14> SEO step 1: Find out the right keywords to use. Step 2: Don't do stupid things with those keywords.
<0> i think it's step 2 a lot of people stumble on
<14> For example, the client that i have now has a navigation menu that has many important keywords in it.
<14> And it's all images.
<14> Stupid.
<14> One interesting thing I discovered is that all of the real estate offices around do pretty well for a certain set of keywords.
<14> But that set of keywords gets very little search traffic.
<0> how do you mean?
<14> But change them slightly, and suddenly there's a HUGE amount of search traffic.
<14> And the sites all do very poorly.
<14> So I'm going to optimize my client around the keywords that actually get searched for, and they'll win. :)
<0> oh like that, yes
<14> That's an example of step 1.
<0> i've had a lot of instances where my partners have focused too much around specifics without thinking how the searches will be performed
<0> when, for instance, doing a site that sells generators
<14> Step 2 is not doing dumb things that make your content invisible - like putting it all in images.
<0> who cares if they're #1 on google for "generators"
<0> who in their right mind searches for just that... you could end up with hits in new delhi but need one in west palm beach :)
<14> Yup.
<0> localizing always seems to help a lot, at least with brick & mortar sites
<0> step 2 i think is due to lazy web design people more than anything else
<0> especially with gecko-based browsers gaining ground but handling typography a bit differently
<14> Perhaps not so much lazy as just ignorant.
<14> They don't realize the damage that kind of design can do.
<0> my take on it is that if they're ignorant, they're not designers, then they're kids in basements
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