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<0> Napta: everything locks up when I do an apt-get upgrade
<1> You create an SSL/TLS connection to the VPN service, and then *other* SSL/TLS connections to other servers are tunneled through the first one.
<2> eide: that usually means something abit more serious is at foot.
<2> like a bug or hardware fault
<2> are you using etch ?
<0> yes
<2> thats why!
<1> tchang, okay, so it's just a connection-in-a-connection between two specially designed clients to get double encryption?
<2> I would of thought hardware too
<3> oh... or its etch :P
<2> eide: EXPECT etch to be broken
<1> (or between a specially-designed client and server)
<4> i think more clients support it than servers
<2> eide: with etch.. you can't do any harm by trying an apt-get after a chroot.
<2> just make sure the sources are correct, heh



<2> if it still locks up, you know it's hardware, like denken_ said
<2> anddddd
<0> true. I will try that. I have had a lot of hardware fail lately
<1> an interesting way to acheive "6DES", one might say, though another thing that seems odd to me is why one would use TLS for one of the connections and SSL for the other.
<4> IE doesn't support TLS by default
<4> whichi s a good enough reason for most people ;)
<1> yeah, but this is a weird enough application that we should be able to reasonably say that anyone doing this is going to be willing to use software that works. ;)
<1> or to enable TLS in IE.
<4> all it takes is one registry key's value to be flipped for IE to support TLS
<1> yup. it's in Internet Options as well, though you have to restart the browser.
<5> TLS is an improved version of SSL 3.0, a "newly" proposed standard adding some more features, so it's either you use TLS or traditional SSL, not both mixed during a session
<5> usually used by mailservers and clients supporting it, but possible to use it with certain browsers
<0> Napta, denken_: what kind of hardware fault do you think it is
<0> memory?
<6> it has been said that memory is Chips in a computer that remember data. Also commonly referred to as RAM.
<1> i've had a hard time dealing with people who refer to hard drives as "memory", because technically, it *is* long-term storage.
<1> ummm... brb (explosion. seriously.)
<5> sounds nasteh
<7> :S for the love of
<0> Thuryn: any news on the explosion?
<1> yeah
<1> it was a 3" firecracker
<1> ****er blew a hole the size of your fist in a paint bucket
<1> blew the bucket about 15' in the air
<8> hey guys, how do i stop a usb driver from loading when i plug a device in?
<1> fezzle_, what driver is it?
<8> 'ipaq'. well, there are several actually. linux loads the driver for it and binds to the device before WMware gets a chance
<1> well, basically you should be able to do it like this: suppose i don't want the 'tg3' driver to load. i would put this in /etc/modules.conf: alias tg3 off
<1> i think
<8> hmm... ok thanks
<1> i have "alias floppy off" in mine, and that works.
<9> hi guys
<9> i'm newbie in linux i need ur help
<9> how to uninstall X windows in debian sarge
<10> can anyone help me install debian. I'm trying to install on a sparc Sun Fire V100
<10> i got the latest network install cd image for sparc and burnt that.
<10> when I boot from the cdrom and get into the install. it never find the cdrom drive.
<11> http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/
<11> did you boot with 2.6 or 2.4 kernel?
<10> Linux version 2.4.27-2-sparc64
<11> then try booting with the 2.6 kernel
<11> the installer has both (iirc)
<10> ok will try now
<10> hmm only has linux and rescue. I'll try the net install image
<10> hmm
<10> I dont know silo
<10> i want to stop at the boot: screen to choose the kernel
<10> what the default 2.6 kernel name
<11> if you type linux26 at the boot prompt, it 'should' use the 2.6 kernel to boot
<11> if that doesn't work for you, then I suggest using a different type of media to install, there is more than one method to install debian
<10> i dont see that image in the boot directory
<12> which cdimage are you using?
<10> netinst and businesscard
<1> well that's just great.
<10> i have both images here
<1> i ran 'apt-get upgrade', which included a kernel update, and rebooted. now i get "pivot_root: No such file or directory," and the system halts.
<1> grrr...
<11> check your bootloader config
<1> ferro, me?
<11> yes



<10> the image linux26 should be there ferro yeah?
<1> think it has the root fs device wrong, perhaps?
<1> i'll play with it in the morning.
<1> boot cd yet again (sigh)
<1> night all
<13> morning
<13> what teams play at what times tonight?
<12> ger-arg 5pm, ita-ukr 9pm
<13> hi nomy
<13> i thought portugal play tonight?
<13> heh
<13> my mate
<13> told me they play tonight
<13> half the time when he says something its not true
<13> just because hes sloppy with informaton
<12> maybe he is living in another timezone :P
<13> hehe
<13> well
<13> for his defence, he works min 12 hour days as a construction worker, i guess taht takes its toll
<13> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/275780_msftsuit29.html
<4> you ought to cut one of his fingers off nagual
<4> whenever someone lies to me i generally take steps to make sure they don't do it again
<13> tchang: thats probably a lie right there :)
<4> well "steps" is very ambiguous
<4> btw i stepped barefoot on that mat the other night
<4> yelled very loudly considering it was ~1am
<13> loooooooool
<13> tchang: i still enjoy it 3-4 times every week
<14> argh
<13> RemoveWGA.exe
<13> ops
<14> remind me that the next time I'm writing a speach for a wedding, I start more than 1 day before
<4> ahaha
<13> are you the mainspeaker?
<14> not really
<13> then its ok
<14> well, the thing is, my brother is getting married
<13> well, its his wedding then, nothing you need to be overly concerned about :))
<14> and when my sister got married, we got a little bit of a talking to, because the speach my brother held then was about 30 seconds long
<14> true, but I sitll need to write the damn thing
<14> s/sitll/still/
<13> well, im sure you have some funny story from when you were kids that will allow you to tell a tale of how he is and how that will be helpful in the marriage
<14> working on it, hehe
<14> those stories takes some time remembering though
<14> my parents have been bugging me daily for the last two weeks about this
<14> "have you started with the speach?" <lie>"yes, nearly finished"</lie>
<1> *speech
<14> yeah yeah
<14> so my english is horrible, what else is new ?
<1> well, you *are* writing a speech, right?
<1> ;p
<1> i would make it about four sentences
<14> yes, but: 1. I'm not writing it in english. 2. speeches are usually SPOKEN not e-mailed to everyone around the table.
<14> yeah, we did that 4-sentence thing last time
<1> build on that success
<1> three sentences
<14> it didn't go over to well when the brother of my brother in law held a 5-minute speech(!)
<1> yeah. that's a lot of talking.
<14> not really, but compared to 4 sentences it is.
<1> receptions are long and tiring enough for the not-so-happy-anymore couple as it is.
<1> speeches should be a minute, tops.
<1> (imho)
<14> I could stretch 4 sentences through 1 minute
<1> heh. more power to you.
<14> just make sure to raise the gl*** between every sentence.
<15> no, be sure to DRINK from the gl*** between every sentence
<15> :D
<15> when you're no longer coherent, your speech is done
<14> hehe
<10> with the latest stable.
<10> are there 10cd's worth of images?
<11> yes, that's due to debian sarge having about 15000 packages, you only need the first cd to install though
<12> its like installing the whole internet although you only need a few pages
<13> thats a cool idea


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