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<0> what am I supposed to do then
<1> better to use backports
<0> never heard of backports
<1> try wget'ing: http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/r/rtorrent/rtorrent_0.6.0-0bpo1_i386.deb and then the right version of the libtorrent deb here: http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/libt/libtorrent/ (based on what it says you need with dpkg -i rtorrent*.deb)
<0> hmm
<0> what is this libsigc++?
<0> man pfloyd, now you screwed up my system :/
<2> a c++ library
<1> incubus[]: uh if all you did was what I told you, you could not have screwed anything up. don't read between the lines.
<0> there we go, just needed an apt-get -f install
<3> ahh the prybar switch
<3> --force --regardless-of-consequences
<0> : )
<4> use the --force
<0> what's so bad about it? it changed it back to the proper libs
<5> so, if you had 1.6 million files.
<5> and about 1.4 million hardlinks
<5> how would you copy that filesystem? :)
<3> floppies!
<5> .. that's a lot of floppies
<5> it's also 275 gig
<3> I'm a m***ochist
<5> and it's in ext3, and i want to see how xfs does :)
<5> so i can't just dd it over
<5> by the 196th million floppy, i think the first one would be degraded.
<6> mmm
<7> i have a sarge box with network access but without internet access. how can i determine which packages on it have security updates available?
<8> litage_ are you not able to setup another pc with internet access as a gateway ?
<6> you can query security.debian.org
<6> and maunally compile a list of packages
<6> then running a for loop grep query against dpkg -l :)
<6> or you can set up internet access for the box
<7> cjw1--: 'fraid not
<8> how would you put the files on the pc if no inet tho ?
<6> --download-only > burn to cd
<8> yeah true
<6> litage_: I would review the manpage for apt-get
<6> but depending on how old the box is, there may be packages that have security exploits that are no longer at security.debian.org since they would be incorporated in the latest release
<9> morning
<9> hm
<9> funny
<6> but you could download the Packages.gz file and then burn it to cd etc but then you would have to update your sources.list to be really ghetto
<9> i added my pages url to a mates business site, and boom it went up 20 pages on google on my fav search word
<6> either way you are screwed
<9> in just one day
<9> oh yea today vista is released
<9> oh joy
<7> have you seen the Apple ad about upgrading to vista?
<7> it's hilarious
<10> we got early copies of vista at work
<10> part of our license agreement with ms
<9> Thuryn: send me one?
<7> Thuryn: what'd you do with them?
<10> it has some cool UI features, but it's a memory hog
<10> fortunately, i didn't install it ;)
<10> there's still a lot of software that doesn't work right on it, and it blue screens on a lot of dell laptops
<10> USB drivers are teh ****
<9> well, they claimed more perrformance in games, and a test i read yesterday suggests its ~ 1/5 slower than xp
<9> not surprising
<9> but why do they keep claiming it
<9> Thuryn: so, will you send me alicens then?
<10> it *does* nag you quite a bit about elevating your privs before allowing you to mess with your network settings, etc.
<10> can't. it's a site license.
<9> ok
<9> thajks anyway
<9> laggy
<10> ;[
<6> I heard it is horrible for slow hd's
<6> i/o maniac
<10> yup
<6> which is why laptops would hate it
<10> you can turn a lot of that crap off
<6> 5400 RPM pos
<11> nagual are u the guy that goes to the gym
<9> 'the guy'
<6> I heard min is 7200 RPM SATA
<9> yea, i go to the gym
<6> for performance
<9> well, i dont see any reason to upgrade to vista
<9> ther eare some games that will require it, so i can multiboot
<10> i don't yet, though as sata drives become more common, getting XP to install will get harder and harder
<10> that's why i love my linux machines with Windows in VMs :)
<6> ugh, VM's are slllllow
<11> playing a game inside a vm?
<10> only if you don't have enough RAM to run one
<10> it's not for games
<6> clearly not for games
<11> i was going to say..
<10> i lost my taste for PC based games around 2000
<9> i dont think its for games
<9> ;-)
<11> the truth is, the only reason why u guys run windows is for games
<9> Thuryn: why?
<9> just got bored or some particular reason?
<9> dustybin: not nessecarily. i enjoy windows as a workstation
<6> I have a node with 8 or 9 VM's on xen
<11> o_O
<10> nagual, both, plus money, plus stuff in real life is more fun
<6> all doing their own thing
<6> luckily that bugger has 4 GB of ram
<9> i still play games, but i get more and more particular
<10> since then, i've gone back to console gaming, but only because i could get a hold of stuff cheap
<9> 2000 i played all i could lay my hands on
<9> now i try all games before buying em ;-)
<10> game cube has some really cool games
<10> <3 Zelda: Wind Waker and both Metroid Prime games
<11> linux.for.networking...osx.for.multimedia...windows.for.games
<10> DDR Mario kicks my ***
<10> dustybin.for.bad.spelling.and.grammar
<11> ive come to the point wherei need a break from computers so im going to india for a few months
<10> job offer?
<11> no im getting laid off work and getting some cash
<10> if you get there and someone asks you to work nights, you should be suspicious
<11> why
<10> you'll wind up answering tech calls for d-link or something
<11> heheheheheh
<10> the irony might be worth it, though
<11> linux is fun and exciting when things dont work and u try and get those things working, sometimes i have spent days trying to get something working
<11> but now everything is working there is no fun
<10> dustybin, install a four-port gig NIC into a server and make it work
<10> that's fun
<11> hehe
<10> yay, custom kernels with drivers straight from Intel!
<10> bleh
<11> i need to setmyself some new goals
<11> maybe learn how to code?
<10> learn ruby
<11> learn more about shell scripting
<11> whats ruby?
<10> it's a scripting language that's gaining some traction in the web world
<10> it's pretty powerful
<11> interesting
<10> it will probably be the next language i teach myself
<10> php looks too simple to qualify ;p
<11> i find it hard to learn things just for the sake of it, but if im trying to achieve something from it then i find it much more rewarding
<10> it's the only way to learn
<10> if there's no reason, it doesn't sink in
<11> yes ive thought about php but i keep on reading about lots of security issues with it
<11> thats right
<10> php's security problems have more to do with coders than limitations of the language
<11> ok
<10> if you as programmer keep asking "is this secure?" as you should, it'll be fine.
<11> do u think this is the future:
<11> http://www.ruby-lang.org
<10> actually, a lot of that is the present
<10> ruby is cool, but it's not the ONLY thing
<12> the advantages of one programming language over another probably have more to do with familiarity on the part of the programmer than on specific features
<10> php, perl, java, javascript... all still have their places
<11> yes
<3> shbrngdo: also somewhat on the platform that it will be used on...
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